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29-11.-2007, 06:58 AM
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Re: yukk
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:55:03 -0000, "Gordon"
<gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >I suspect it's the same process by which natural Mineral water goes "off" if >you drink out of the bottle and then leave it for some days. Bacteria from >the mouth get washed back into the container and then start multiplying... We might be getting mixed up between algae, fungi and bacteria here but they all need something to live on. I'm amazed that the water in the dehumidifier I use in my drying closet will turn green if left for a while, there is only the point of entry via the tube from the condenser and it should be near enough distilled water! AJH |
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29-11.-2007, 07:49 AM
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"AJH" <news@sylva.icuklive.co.uk> wrote in message news:q3lrk39mpiobq487jrq3bmotlqd36o6jhp@4ax.com... > On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:55:03 -0000, "Gordon" > <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >>I suspect it's the same process by which natural Mineral water goes "off" >>if >>you drink out of the bottle and then leave it for some days. Bacteria from >>the mouth get washed back into the container and then start multiplying... > > We might be getting mixed up between algae, fungi and bacteria here > but they all need something to live on. I'm amazed that the water in > the dehumidifier I use in my drying closet will turn green if left for > a while, there is only the point of entry via the tube from the > condenser and it should be near enough distilled water! > > AJH > What about the crude that gets sucked in and goes though any filters that might be there? |
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30-11.-2007, 10:48 AM
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Re: yukk
> 1) They look 'cool'.
> 2) Errm? Well, if you mountain bike they allow you to drink the water without having a mouthpiece covered in mud, which you would usually get with frame mounted bottles. For walking, perhaps not as much advantage to them. I haven't had the taste problems others have had, but they are awkward to clean. Simon -- http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk |
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01-12.-2007, 03:47 AM
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Re: yukk
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:49:19 -0000, "michael k"
<michaelk@dontspamme.com> wrote: >>I'm amazed that the water in >> the dehumidifier I use in my drying closet will turn green if left for >> a while, there is only the point of entry via the tube from the >> condenser and it should be near enough distilled water! >> >> AJH >> > >What about the crude that gets sucked in and goes though any filters that >might be there? Yes the algae must be in the air and dust particles may have the minerals they need but I'm still surprised how this green appears. AJH |
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02-12.-2007, 08:46 AM
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In message <YvZ2j.1363$WJ3.1234@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>, Jim Ford
<jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk> writes >Dominic Sexton wrote: > >> A bacteria bottle can indeed serve as an alternative to a nice fresh >>sparkly clean water bladder. However you said it can serve exactly the >>same function which it cannot without the addition of a drinking tube. > >If you want a bottle to serve the same function as a bladder+tube, >you'll need to half fill the bottle with TCP and top up with water to >get it to taste the same! > >Jim Ford Rubbish. Of course if one isn't fussy about washing the bladder and tube properly then you're probably right. TCP !! the memories haunt me :-) -- Bill Grey |
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02-12.-2007, 08:50 AM
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In message <7IKdnbYlcbK2ztHanZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@bt.com>, michael k
<michaelk@dontspamme.com> writes >Going back to the subject of these bladders, in my life I have met one >person hospitalised for hydration problems, she had overdosed on water from >a bladder. fascinating - truly fascinating :-) -- Bill Grey |
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02-12.-2007, 09:41 AM
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On 1 Dec,
Bill Grey <wdg@graigroad.demon.co.uk> wrote: > TCP !! the memories haunt me :-) TCP, The bugs thrived on it if it was diluted enough. -- BD Change lycos to yahoo to reply |
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03-12.-2007, 09:50 AM
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In article <5r3072F12mea2U1@mid.individual.net>, Peter Clinch
<p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> writes >Bernard Hill wrote: >> In article <5r2cgkF11ndbcU1@mid.individual.net>, Peter Clinch >> <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> writes >>> (same with walking poles, most of which seem to be out there because >>> someone said they're good rather than they're doing any good). >> >> Oh No! An essential piece of equipment. If I found out I had left them >> at home when arriving for a mountain walk I would abandon it. >> >> You've obviously not got pain in the knees like I have. Every step down >> is a sharp pain but is alleviated by levering myself down on the poles. > >Note I didn't say they're not any good (if I thought that, then >http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/poles.htm would be *very* >different!), but that most of the ones out there don't actually do any >good in practice. Yes. A good site. I agree with all your advice. > >Look at most other pole users and they wave them ineffectually at the >ground every couple of paces and don't actually put any weight through >them (maybe just as well for their fingers, since most of them aren't >using the straps to take any weight...). Used like that they don't do >anything for the knees: that requires active work with the arms, and >where it isn't done the poles are really an affectation rather than a >good way to redirect body weight. Yup, seen that. > >I don't use my poles nearly as much as I used to, and a lot of that is >building up the supporting muscles around the knee. Now I can take >downhills much better on my things, keeping my knees bent during >descents, which saves faffing about with poles. You need pretty chunky >thighs to get away with it though, and I still like poles on big, steep >and sustained routes down. That's what I've never been able to manage. I don't have a lot of strength in my thighs. I'm 60 and probably overweight at 14st but when coming down steep sections (they all have considerable steep sections on real mountains!) I find I am actually *stepping* one step at a time just like coming down stairs. So the lower leg is always straight as it's about 6" below the upper one. That's where planting a long pole in advance is really great. -- Bernard Hill Selkirk, Scotland |
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