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Old 14-12.-2007, 04:53 AM   #46
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An amnesty on past doping might be fairer on cyclists, however it only protects pros from retroactive revelations like OP or if they are outed by a Sinkewitz for example. It doesn't protect the ongoing busts that have gained the most spectacular attention (because they are during events) like Flandis, Vino, Rasmussen etc.

And the real goal is to stop drug-taking going forward. An amnesty does little to achieve that IMHO.

Any amnesty needs to have full confessions. Everyone involved in the doping infrastructure, the doctors, the team managers, the traffickers, need to be exposed and probably excised from the sport.
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Any amnesty needs to have full confessions. Everyone involved in the doping infrastructure, the doctors, the team managers, the traffickers, need to be exposed and probably excised from the sport.

Aren't excisions and amnesties mutually exclusive?
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Aren't excisions and amnesties mutually exclusive?

Can anyone really trust someone like Bruyneel to not go back to the old ways after an amnesty? I'm all for giving riders a pass if they admit the problem, but I am skeptical of others. There are some people who have seen every attempt to clean up the sport as an opportunity to benefit even more from doping. Allowing them to stay would be like allowing the wolf to stay in the henhouse.
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Can anyone really trust someone like Bruyneel to not go back to the old ways after an amnesty? I'm all for giving riders a pass if they admit the problem, but I am skeptical of others. There are some people who have seen every attempt to clean up the sport as an opportunity to benefit even more from doping. Allowing them to stay would be like allowing the wolf to stay in the henhouse.
Its the whole system that needs to change, not just the main players. Its like Al Qaida. Knock off Bin Laden and some power hungry Bin Laden mini-me will be only too happy to take over with the added motivation of avenging his martyred former mentor (albeit with a lot less personal cash probably).

Its the system that needs to change. But unfortunately that requires the current people in power to lose a lot of power, to do what's right. There are only few examples in history where this has occurred. The Founding Fathers of the USA, and Gorbachev spring to mind as magnanimous benefactors, who once in power, fixed the system properly which reduced their influence.
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Yesterday i read a thing that makes me believe this is just a farce.

UCI is worried that some of the analysis carried on portuguese and spanish riders has given the impression that they might be blood dopping.

The same report said that the portuguese federation will improve their quantity off doping tests.

Same report congratulated FIFA for the reduction to only 5 cases of doping, being 2 off cannabis and most of atheletes in futsal, it continued stating FIFA conducted 1698 doping tests.
WOW! that must be 1 in every 1 000 or 10 000 pro players.

I think this is just a farce.
Imagine how much money it will be lost if all came clear.

BY the way how about the news on the Baseball?
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