The Order of Men

29-12.-2007, 11:11 AM

MikeEagle12

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The Order of Men

I've been a member here for a couple of years now and just wanted to share something I wrote up for my website, www.orderofmen.com. Order of Men is a forum geared towards the attributes and virtues all men should hold, which you will soon find in the order below.

Its the basis behind the community,

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Article placed here (http://orderofmen.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8)

As the years go by, I see the stature of men changing all around. At one time, being a real man was much less blurred. From the beginning of time, man was born to hunt and defend his family. From birth, everybody was taught to be both strong and brave, and as years passed o through a test of manhood. Killing a great beast, fighting in battle, or going through a trial of strength would proclaim him a man. Not everyone could live up to be a true man, it took great courage to stare danger in the face, go into battle with little odds of survival, or stand steady as arrows or bullets flew by. If he feared or retreated, he was labeled a coward and disgraced by fellow men. Many would rather die in battle then lose their proclaimed honor. It was these who were the real men, when masculinity and honor were the most important virtues in life. Being a man entailed masculinity, something seen as a force for good, something that could be expressed in occupations only we as men could do.

The atmosphere has changed men, as the roles between men and women fuse closer together; it’s getting harder to know what exactly being a man is supposed to be. You see people all around us talking about the feminization of society; you see it everyday as men’s magazines are progressively focusing more on appearance over all other attributes. The so called “new man” is supposed to be more sensitive, gentle, and nurturing, something more traditionally associated with being a woman. Now there’s nothing wrong with having these attributes, as you should remember that being strong and tough does not and should not negate all emotions. A real man is not afraid to show feelings towards close others. You as men should understand what is really important. However, focusing primarily on these and trying to suppress our inner manliness is something I’m getting tired of witnessing. We as men have much higher levels of testosterone, naturally suiting us to take risks, be competitive, engage in physical activity, and action. To reject masculine traits is to deny our very nature. As men, let’s bring back what is crucial for the world we live in today. Restore the confidence and self-respect so many of us once had and bring back that purpose and sense we as men should always have with us.

We’ve all heard Schwarzenegger talk about the girly men out there, but what are they really? In this day and age, the world we live in has produced millions of modern day wimps. Men who whine but don’t ever act, men who are pushed around and end up accepting second best. To step away from being a wimp and tread into manliness doesn’t mean you have to work in a mill, fight others in the bar, or even work with your hands, but rather make the qualities of manliness visible to others while conducting these actions in every direction and everyday of your lives.

To be a real man means being assertive when neccesary and having traits such as nobility, leadership, chivalry, and stamina. It means being confident enough to take defeat when needed and not pass on the blame unfairly. It means having grace under pressure, not panicking in a crisis, being dignified, having pride without boastfulness, knowing how to treat women, and, most importantly, not allowing yourself to be manipulated or pushed around. A real man respects other people. We all have the same rights and deserve to be treated that way. Judging others should not be in his ideals while offering help to people in need should be done whenever possible. A real man can take calculated risks, push fear aside when needed, and always have the strength of body and mind. A real man is brave, he stands his ground in the face of danger even if he may be afraid. A real man always decides his own destiny no matter what the circumstances. He should always be aware of his freedom and not let anyone take it from him. He must create his own destiny and fulfill it.

Being a real man isn’t about how many years you’ve graced this earth, how tough you think you are, or how successful you may be. It’s about how you conduct yourself in front of others and when there backs are turned. Bring out those inner real and manliness qualities everywhere you go, and if you do this, men, you will be respected for it. Be proud of who you are and stay true to your own virtues. In the end it is only you who is conscience of them and who will judge how much of a man you are. There is no point in pretending because in the end, it is only you who is being cheated.

If you can agree or relate to what I have come to say above, I welcome you to the Order of Men!

~Mike

(copyrighted 2007)

What do you think? I know it's long but I think you'll enjoy it

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29-12.-2007, 02:25 PM

alienator

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Re: The Order of Men

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I think it sounds like you're screaming for a little man on man leather action. Your manifesto reads kinda like you secretly see yourself as a bottom. Have you met James over at James Biker Blog, Spammer Emporium, and Pederasty Clearinghouse? He likes submissive bears and hairless twinks. At Divine Interventions you'll find his favorite anal stimulant, the Baby Jesus Buttplug.

You two should make a playdate.

29-12.-2007, 05:20 PM

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Oh you're a clever one aren't you boy. But see, all you proved with your post was who the bigger man is. I'm just going to look past your stupid remark and go on with my life, no point in even begining to try and counter your rediculous remark.

Anyone else see anything that should be taken out or added to the article? I know it's full of grammar erros as it's still a rough draft

29-12.-2007, 06:04 PM

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Yeah: throw it in the trash. The time of chauvanistic chest thumping is over. All you held dear is gone. Yeah, women are your equals....likely even your superiors.

Yeah, you do serve a purpose: your sort are good at killing innocent people 'round the world, perpetuating the ol' caveman mentality by insisting that there is something special about your lack of manhood.

That you even need a site to spew your garbage just goes to show how fragile your pathetic little ego is. It's likely your site is populated with neanderthals of sub par intellect, with no ability at all to use things like critical thought.

It's likely the kind of place where guys sit around in a circle jerk spurting on each other as they get all hot and bothered by the newest SUV.

You are the minority, and your numbers are falling. Likely the only folks attracted to your stench are wife beaters, pent up child molesters, religious freaks carrying their "Promise Keepers" dogma.

With all the things that threaten societies around the world, your imagined view of what you think a man is and the state of that ideal is not one of those threats.

You guys are fun to laugh at, though.

Order of men. Heh. Yeah. Right.

"Operation Enduring Freedom". Christ. It's frightening that people like you are allowed to have guns, go overseas, and shoot people that don't look or think like you. What a tool you are. Any respect you could have had was lost when you decided to wave your service dick in your signature.

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29-12.-2007, 08:54 PM

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Re: The Order of Men

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IMHO the Order of Men is a collection bucket for men who feel inadequate in today's world and long for yesteryear, when they could deer hunt all day and be well regarded in their tribe as a master hunter.

Seriously, I am not sure what you are selling here. I think it is membership in your society? In any case, if you substitute "white man" for the male references in the first half of the article, and you substitute "black man" for the female references, you end up with what reads like a KKK recruitment pamphlet. I also counted a reference to "man" or "manhood" in about 90% of the sentences in the first couple of paragraphs. Subliminal psychology? Also in the last sentence of paragraph one, you can't get by with one "man" reference, you have to make two in this tautological phrase "Being a man entailed masculinity...". This is about as profound as saying "Being a dog entailed being canine".

You end up in the article by saying that all men should act in accordance with their male characteristics - but that implies that guys are wandering around lost, acting like girls, and all they need is to be told to be brave, and honorable etc. and hey presto, they feel like men again. Shouldn't we just try to be ourselves, and not live up to some outside reference of what we should be? Seems like you guys need to be told how to live your life and you've been told the wrong things, and now you need some guidance (or to be told it isn't your fault that you're a loser). Why can't you all just act with the virtues you describe? Who needs an Order of Men? Personally, I'm a man. I act like a man. Its as simple as that.

The real reason you need an Order of Men IMO is that you are all in this Order suffering the same affliction. You are all insecure about your manliness in today's world. You fear others see you as a girlie failure (which most of you probably are) even though you feel you would have been able to "cut it" as a caveman. Success within society is an important male benchmark. Unfortunately today's society has moved the goalposts, and the guys who want to go hunting all day aren't as valued. So you all get together and pat each other on the back and tell each other what big men you REALLY are, and everyone feels good and you go home with a puffed out chest feeling better than the loser you felt like when you woke up that morning.

There wouldn't be any problem with all this (heck its one of the basic calling cards of most religions, Amway, etc.) except that it ends up with everyone in the Order of Men getting together and blaming the rest of the world (feminist groups, etc.) for their predicament and things can get almost like men on a mission to right the world (think Timothy McVeigh).

So I am a little concerned that this Order of Men is a front for something else, and that it might have as its goal: to return the world to a time when men had power over women by birthright. Unlike perhaps the dissatisfying state of affairs in today's world, where a guy needs to be reasonably attractive and moderately successful to have influence over women or a woman.

So I second alienator on all his points.

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30-12.-2007, 05:57 AM

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