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Re: Do dead cyclists go to Heaven or Hell?

 
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Old 05-01.-2008, 10:21 PM   #46
Ekul Namsob
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Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

> notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) writes:
>
> > Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:


> > > You'd have no way of knowing - I was referring to cutting through
> > > neighborhoods, which is nearly always slower unless the arterials
> > > are congested.

> >
> > That would be why most SatNavs avoid such roads.

>
> Except, of course, that those roads are not slower when the arterials
> are congested, but your navigation system does not know about traffic
> congestion at the time you are driving.


Actually, it does.

> > Go to <http://maps.google.com/>. On the right hand side above the map,
> > you will see a link marked "Link to this page". What is that link?


> What good will that do? It has nothing to do with Jack's URL and the
> page I got did not show any map.


It will have a lot to do with Jack's URL. You, however, do not want help
in diagnosing your proplem so I shall offer no further assistance.

> With no map, there is not going to
> be anything above the map. When I use google maps on my own, it
> works.


And it will offer you a permalink which you refuse to share with others.

Cheers,
Luke


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Old 06-01.-2008, 06:47 AM   #47
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notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) writes:

> Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) writes:
> >
> > > Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

>
> > > > You'd have no way of knowing - I was referring to cutting through
> > > > neighborhoods, which is nearly always slower unless the arterials
> > > > are congested.
> > >
> > > That would be why most SatNavs avoid such roads.

> >
> > Except, of course, that those roads are not slower when the arterials
> > are congested, but your navigation system does not know about traffic
> > congestion at the time you are driving.

>
> Actually, it does.


Actually it doesn't as we don't have ubiquitous traffic monitoring in
place - if there is an accident ahead on most roads, there is no way
the system is going to know given what is currently deployed.

> > > Go to <http://maps.google.com/>. On the right hand side above the map,
> > > you will see a link marked "Link to this page". What is that link?

>
> > What good will that do? It has nothing to do with Jack's URL and the
> > page I got did not show any map.

>
> It will have a lot to do with Jack's URL. You, however, do not want help
> in diagnosing your proplem so I shall offer no further assistance.


It had nothing to do with Jack's URL, and you are incapable of offering
me any assistance, which I really don't need. It's not like you can
fix the problem with Jack's URL.

> > With no map, there is not going to
> > be anything above the map. When I use google maps on my own, it
> > works.

>
> And it will offer you a permalink which you refuse to share with others.


What are you babbling about? You gave a URL to google's map service.
Jack was giving one to a specific area. There was no city, state,
zip code, or any other data that would have allowed me to find what
he was talking about on my own. There's no way I'll get a link to
what Jack was talking about.

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Old 06-01.-2008, 06:55 AM   #48
Ekul Namsob
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Default Re: Do dead cyclists go to Heaven or Hell?

Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

> notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) writes:
>
> > Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:


> > > Except, of course, that those roads are not slower when the arterials
> > > are congested, but your navigation system does not know about traffic
> > > congestion at the time you are driving.

> >
> > Actually, it does.

>
> Actually it doesn't as we don't have ubiquitous traffic monitoring in
> place - if there is an accident ahead on most roads, there is no way
> the system is going to know given what is currently deployed.


No, sorry it does. What is currently deployed where I live is extremely
effective. I suspect you live somewhere where traffic monitoring is
rather less advanced than where I live.

> > > > Go to <http://maps.google.com/>. On the right hand side above the map,
> > > > you will see a link marked "Link to this page". What is that link?

> >
> > > What good will that do? It has nothing to do with Jack's URL and the
> > > page I got did not show any map.

> >
> > It will have a lot to do with Jack's URL. You, however, do not want help
> > in diagnosing your proplem so I shall offer no further assistance.

>
> It had nothing to do with Jack's URL, and you are incapable of offering
> me any assistance, which I really don't need. It's not like you can
> fix the problem with Jack's URL.


As you wish. Your ignorance, which you demonstrate in more abundance
than most, is your wish.

Goodbye,
Luke

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Old 06-01.-2008, 08:19 AM   #49
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notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) writes:

> Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob@wronghead.com (Ekul Namsob) writes:
> >
> > > Bill Z. <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote:

>
> > > > Except, of course, that those roads are not slower when the arterials
> > > > are congested, but your navigation system does not know about traffic
> > > > congestion at the time you are driving.
> > >
> > > Actually, it does.

> >
> > Actually it doesn't as we don't have ubiquitous traffic monitoring in
> > place - if there is an accident ahead on most roads, there is no way
> > the system is going to know given what is currently deployed.

>
> No, sorry it does. What is currently deployed where I live is extremely
> effective. I suspect you live somewhere where traffic monitoring is
> rather less advanced than where I live.


Where you live is not the whole country. Given your comments about Jack's
URL and how Google works, I really don't believe you anyway.

> > It had nothing to do with Jack's URL, and you are incapable of offering
> > me any assistance, which I really don't need. It's not like you can
> > fix the problem with Jack's URL.

>
> As you wish. Your ignorance, which you demonstrate in more abundance
> than most, is your wish.
>


Wow. Talk about idiocy! Typing http://maps.google.com into my browser
is not going to tell me anything about why Google didn't like Jack's
URL when used on my browser.


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Old 13-01.-2008, 08:52 AM   #50
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donquijote1954 schrieb:
> On Jan 3, 7:17 pm, Jens Müller <usenet-11-2...@tessarakt.de> wrote:
>> As I am currently sueing a German city in administrative court regarding
>> a cycle path usage obligation: I think I know a bit about safe cycling.


>
> Good luck!


Thanks. I think I have a good position.

They changed their arguments several times during the administrative
proceedings, as I now got to know when I viewed the file:

The original order had no specific reasons at all ("The traffic signs
are ordered for regulating right-of-way in the roundabout", which has
nothing whatsoever to do with cycle path usage obligation). Then it was
uniform traffic regulations, HGV traffic, slope, and finally way to
school for children ... The file also says something about "political
wish of mayor and council", which seems to be the only relevant reason.

Furthermore, the file is IMO incomplete. A hearing (written, I suppose)
of relevant public authorities (like traffic police, ...) was conducted,
and there also have to be some papers about those political wishes. I
will point that out to the court and the rapporteur will probably demand
that papers from the city ...

Even better, their traffic law knowledge seems to be from 1998, they are
not willing to accept the relevant court rulings after that time ...
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