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08-01.-2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
"David do you really believe that ther is enough biomass to feed 1/2 ton 4 wheel drive pickups? i susspect they get about 6 miles a gallon when they lie about their gas milage fwiw peter |
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08-01.-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
The more economical source is when they start running on bull shit. Imagine all the crap cows leave behind, not to say what people say in politics and organized religion. politicians and lots of religious leaders only reflect the society as does this usenet--so what do you expect? fwiw peter |
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08-01.-2008, 10:01 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
> I think the planet is doomed unless there is mass human
> destruction! > > Perhaps SUVs are actually doing Earth a favor? steve i hate to say this but i think you are right--sad for our children i know of no answer and that includes getting human dna off this planet life i know will go one and steve--that's what keeps me going in a dead planet peter |
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08-01.-2008, 10:05 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
I think the main contribution of the SUV is toward the male ego of the American psyche. Perhaps like being a gladiator in Roman times. i agree you can now see it in 1/2 ton 4 wheel drive pickups here in the bronx also if you can believe it--stretch humvees peter |
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08-01.-2008, 10:11 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
They will shuttle the Religious Right out of this planet when they
finally succeed in destroying it. its really not them they jsut refect our society no more no less peter |
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08-01.-2008, 10:11 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
ilaboo wrote:
> The more economical source is when they start running on bull shit. > Imagine all the crap cows leave behind, not to say what people say in > politics and organized religion. > > politicians and lots of religious leaders only reflect the society as does > this usenet--so what do you expect? > I expect correct netiquette and for a reply to contain some idea of what is being replied to. |
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09-01.-2008, 12:22 AM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
donquijote1954 <nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8c7e970c-d327-4909-993c-e07da4c3d7d5@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: > On Jan 8, 2:58*am, "T. Ling Yu" <troh...@frontend-0-0.local> wrote: >> Red Cloud <mmdir2...@yahoo.com> wrote >> innews:139ec435-3312-4ef6-be87-396fe > af88856@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com: >> >> > Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being. >> >> Why would you want to kill human being with your bike, RC. >> That's horrible! > > When you are in an SUV you have POWER, power to kill power not to > kill. But you don't get all hung up about it. You treat power > casually, and keep chatting on your cell. It must look natural. You > barely notice those poor monkeys trying to survive in their little > bikes. Any death resulting from this must appear accidental. > But why cell phone keep get smaller? Stupid American must need to want desire fat-ass cellphone with more power, no? |
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09-01.-2008, 03:01 AM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
donquijote1954 wrote:
> On Jan 7, 5:09 pm, Stephen Harding <smhardin...@msn.com> wrote: > >>George Conklin wrote: >> >>> If you are concerned with your health, you won't be riding a bicycle. Too >>>many accidents per mile. >> >>Like how many? >> >>Cite please. >> > > It's just a fear the system plants on you. It doesn't have to be real > though. Just enough so people give up bicycles and buy SUVs. That's a fair point. However I've come to believe people eschew bicycle commuting not so much because it's seen as a death wish, but more that such a view makes a convenient excuse. Let's face it, hopping in the dino-juice buggy can be awfully convenient! SMH |
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09-01.-2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
"donquijote1954" <nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ccce08e9-4fd1-4ae6-8228-Well, I can see you are > Monkey see monkey do.  I had sea monkeys when I was a kid... |
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09-01.-2008, 04:58 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
Amy Blankenship wrote:
> I had sea monkeys when I was a kid... Penicillin clear things up? |
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10-01.-2008, 12:01 AM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> wrote in message news:478470e7$1$16789$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Amy Blankenship wrote: > >> I had sea monkeys when I was a kid... > > Penicillin clear things up? You only need that if you feed them too much. Clouds the water. |
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10-01.-2008, 02:36 AM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
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> On 7 Jan, 22:56, "Jack May" <jack....@comcast.net> wrote: >> "Stephen Harding" <smhardin...@msn.com> wrote in message >> >> news:Zhxgj.9242$Xo1.4668@trnddc06... >> >>> Jack May wrote: >>>> "Stephen Harding" <smhardin...@msn.com> wrote in message >>> I think I read that during the Carboniferous period that >>> the earth was as hot as it has ever been. >> >>> ISTR that one of the reasons was due to large amounts of >>> water vapor in the air (volcanoes? geothermal activity?). >>> Can't remember what the source of it was. Maybe just >>> evaporation from oceans. >> >>> At any rate, the air can be very heavily saturated with >>> water without it raining, or without rain clearing up >>> the humidity. Check out many of the tropical locations >>> of the world where heavy rains don't lessen humidity. >> >> From: >> >> http://www.wxdude.com/humidity.html >> >> Air can only hold 100% relative humidity. For rain the 100% relative >> humidity is at the altitude where the rain is coming from, not the >> ground where the humidity gage is normally. It takes some time for >> the 100% humidity "mist" to form into drops which fall as rain. >> There are cases where there can be super cooled water being more >> than 100%, but that is rare. >> >> So for all practical purposes vapor is not going to do much to >> increase global warming because it will precipitate out as rain when >> it reaches 100% humidity at some place in the atmosphere. Since we >> get rain now, the air is often saturated at some place with the >> maximum moisture it can hold. > > There are three gases emitted by aircraft which contribute to global > warming: H2O, CO2 and NOx The most obvious is the water vapour which > forms condensation trails - clouds of frozen ice crystals. Since the > air in the upper troposphere (the level at which most commerical > planes fly) is naturally very dry, water vapour emitted by aircraft > can make a big difference. Sometimes the contrails cover the whole > sky. Have you ever wondered, why the sky is so much clearer in remoter > locations? > > Although these contrails reflect a little sunlight away from earth, > they reflect back to earth much more invisible infra-red (heat) > radiation which would otherwise escape to space - and therefore they > have an overall warming effect. This is hard to measure accurately, > because the contrails eventually spread out and become > indistinguishable from natural cirrus clouds. > > Not all of the water vapour forms contrails, but water is itself a > "greenhouse gas" which also traps this outgoing infra-red radiation. > Each water molecule traps much more heat and also survives much longer > at this height than it would do at sea-level. > > Jet-fuel - kerosene - is a mixture of substances produced by > distilling crude oil, which can be represented by C13H28. The chemical > equation for burning it is as follows: > 2C13H28 + 40O2 =>26CO2 + 28H2O > > So you can see, that for every 14 water molecules produced, the > aircraft must also emit 13 of CO2. This is also a greenhouse gas and > will stay in the atmosphere warming the earth for an average of 100 > years, some of it for 1000s of years. There's no way that you can get > the energy from such fossil fuel without producing that much CO2. It's > not a by-product that can be "scrubbed" from the exhaust. So...Al Gore should quit riding around in his 1970s-era Gulfstream? Don't hold your breath! (You'll just emit a greenhouse gas, anyway!) Bill "this shit would be really, really funny if it wasn't taken so really, really seriously by so really, really many" S. |
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10-01.-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
Bill Sornson wrote:
> nafuk wrote: >> On 7 Jan, 22:56, "Jack May" <jack....@comcast.net> wrote: >>> "Stephen Harding" <smhardin...@msn.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:Zhxgj.9242$Xo1.4668@trnddc06... >>> >>>> Jack May wrote: >>>>> "Stephen Harding" <smhardin...@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> I think I read that during the Carboniferous period that >>>> the earth was as hot as it has ever been. >>>> ISTR that one of the reasons was due to large amounts of >>>> water vapor in the air (volcanoes? geothermal activity?). >>>> Can't remember what the source of it was. Maybe just >>>> evaporation from oceans. >>>> At any rate, the air can be very heavily saturated with >>>> water without it raining, or without rain clearing up >>>> the humidity. Check out many of the tropical locations >>>> of the world where heavy rains don't lessen humidity. >>> From: >>> >>> http://www.wxdude.com/humidity.html >>> >>> Air can only hold 100% relative humidity. For rain the 100% relative >>> humidity is at the altitude where the rain is coming from, not the >>> ground where the humidity gage is normally. It takes some time for >>> the 100% humidity "mist" to form into drops which fall as rain. >>> There are cases where there can be super cooled water being more >>> than 100%, but that is rare. >>> >>> So for all practical purposes vapor is not going to do much to >>> increase global warming because it will precipitate out as rain when >>> it reaches 100% humidity at some place in the atmosphere. Since we >>> get rain now, the air is often saturated at some place with the >>> maximum moisture it can hold. >> There are three gases emitted by aircraft which contribute to global >> warming: H2O, CO2 and NOx The most obvious is the water vapour which >> forms condensation trails - clouds of frozen ice crystals. Since the >> air in the upper troposphere (the level at which most commerical >> planes fly) is naturally very dry, water vapour emitted by aircraft >> can make a big difference. Sometimes the contrails cover the whole >> sky. Have you ever wondered, why the sky is so much clearer in remoter >> locations? >> >> Although these contrails reflect a little sunlight away from earth, >> they reflect back to earth much more invisible infra-red (heat) >> radiation which would otherwise escape to space - and therefore they >> have an overall warming effect. This is hard to measure accurately, >> because the contrails eventually spread out and become >> indistinguishable from natural cirrus clouds. >> >> Not all of the water vapour forms contrails, but water is itself a >> "greenhouse gas" which also traps this outgoing infra-red radiation. >> Each water molecule traps much more heat and also survives much longer >> at this height than it would do at sea-level. >> >> Jet-fuel - kerosene - is a mixture of substances produced by >> distilling crude oil, which can be represented by C13H28. The chemical >> equation for burning it is as follows: >> 2C13H28 + 40O2 =>26CO2 + 28H2O >> >> So you can see, that for every 14 water molecules produced, the >> aircraft must also emit 13 of CO2. This is also a greenhouse gas and >> will stay in the atmosphere warming the earth for an average of 100 >> years, some of it for 1000s of years. There's no way that you can get >> the energy from such fossil fuel without producing that much CO2. It's >> not a by-product that can be "scrubbed" from the exhaust. > > So...Al Gore should quit riding around in his 1970s-era Gulfstream? Don't > hold your breath! (You'll just emit a greenhouse gas, anyway!) > > Bill "this shit would be really, really funny if it wasn't taken so really, > really seriously by so really, really many" S. I hope I am around long enough to laugh at the collapse of civilization. Foolish humans need to be taught a harsh lesson to learn anything. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people." A. Derleth |
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10-01.-2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
donquijote1954 who? wrote:
> On Jan 8, 9:05 pm, Peacemaker <samto...@gmail.com> wrote: >> god put the oil in the earth for us to use. >> God put the animal bones there to test our faith. >> Unless god says there is global warming, there isn't. > > That pretty much sums up the basic belief of many Christians. > > It doesn't make sense. But, hey, God didn't give us the brain to > think. > > I wonder though why God gave us a brain. > But, at least at the end, God apologizes to creation for the inconvenience. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people." A. Derleth |
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10-01.-2008, 03:11 PM
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Re: If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?
"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message news:fm4575$uf5$2@registered.motzarella.org... > Bill Sornson wrote: >> nafuk wrote: >>> On 7 Jan, 22:56, "Jack May" <jack....@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> "Stephen Harding" <smhardin...@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:Zhxgj.9242$Xo1.4668@trnddc06... >>>> >>>>> Jack May wrote: >>>>>> "Stephen Harding" <smhardin...@msn.com> wrote in message really seriously by so really, really many" S. > > I hope I am around long enough to laugh at the collapse of civilization. > Foolish humans need to be taught a harsh lesson to learn anything. People learn the most by solving the problems that confront them. That is exactly what we will be doing by developing alternative energy sources that solve the greenhouse problem. Almost nothing is learned by fantasizing punishment for people that don't agree with you. |
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