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15-01.-2008, 06:20 PM

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Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini

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Originally Posted by limerickman

Don't take offence at this - but I read some time back that Italy has the lowest level of income tax compliance in Europe.
Italians are fundamentally opposed to pay any tax - according to this article.
Is this true????

Maybe no one else in Europe has the balls to resist.

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16-01.-2008, 02:40 AM

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Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini

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Originally Posted by Powerful Pete

Indeed Lim, we have a bit of an issue with... following the rules. To paraphrase something Mussolini said, Italy would be a heck of a lot easier to govern if Italians did not spend 99.9% of their time doing exactly the opposite of what is laid out in laws/regulations.

N.B. I am not glorifying Mussolini or Fascism, and this reference is made to normal everyday laws and not political opposition to the regime (IIRC).

You know, that rings a bell. When I was in Sicily, I was told that a red signal in traffic is treated as just a suggestion, not a rule. That would fit in exactly with what you are saying.

16-01.-2008, 08:41 AM

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Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini

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You know, that rings a bell. When I was in Sicily, I was told that a red signal in traffic is treated as just a suggestion, not a rule. That would fit in exactly with what you are saying.

Have you ever tried negotiating a roundabout in Paris, like the one round the Place de la Madeleine? Is "mayhem" a french word?

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16-01.-2008, 10:00 AM	#19
limerickman Community Team Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: at the bar Posts: 12,631	Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini I have noticed, particularly in Itlay, that when you're paying for something it always has to be paid for in cash. Credit card - cheque is not accepted. Given the huge number of banks in Italy, I was suprised at this attitude when I first travelled there. And in all the years I've been back to itlay since then.....they still insist on cash payment - be it in a hotel, bar, shops. Or maybe they just don't accept cheues/credit cards from foreigners. __________________ .."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF morelike hypocrisy.

16-01.-2008, 10:11 AM

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Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini

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Originally Posted by limerickman

I have noticed, particularly in Itlay, that when you're paying for something it always has to be paid for in cash.
Credit card - cheque is not accepted.

Given the huge number of banks in Italy, I was suprised at this attitude when I first travelled there.
And in all the years I've been back to itlay since then.....they still insist on cash
payment - be it in a hotel, bar, shops.

Or maybe they just don't accept cheues/credit cards from foreigners.

Lim, I thought this is more of a European rather than Italian thing. I know that in Germany, many places do accept credit cards, but many others don't; clearly this is something that is just changing now, and it is possible that Italy is still a bit behind in this regard. Usually, they do accept debit cards in shops though, since that is almost like paying with cash.

16-01.-2008, 10:15 AM

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Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini

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Now that you mention it.......some shops in Paris don't accept credit cards etc.

I've found that credit cards are widely accepted anytime I've been to Germany
(Berlin, Munich and Cologne).
But then they're major cities and I suppose credit cards usage is more common place.

Bu you could be right - it might be a European thing as opposed to it being an Italian thing.
(I just assumed that being a foreigner, they prefer cash from me in Italy).

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morelike hypocrisy.

16-01.-2008, 10:38 AM

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Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini

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Originally Posted by limerickman

When I came to Germany, I was told that credit cards are now being accepted in more places than they were in the past. There are still many shops that won't let you use even a debit card unless the bill is more than some minimum amount (such as 10 Euros).

16-01.-2008, 07:56 PM	#23
Powerful Pete Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 3,870	Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini The reluctance to use credit cards here is twofold: (i) there is an additional charge to the shop and they are paid with a significant delay; and (ii) cash payment = no need for a receipt=declaring what you want to the tax authorities. __________________ De Rosa Planet Campagnolo Per Sempre! PAOLO BETTINI CAMPIONE DEL MONDO x 2!

16-01.-2008, 09:39 PM

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Re: The tax man sticks it to Cipollini

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Originally Posted by limerickman

Now that you mention it.......some shops in Paris don't accept credit cards etc.

The vast majority of French pays with credit cards, the trader enjoys it because with french credit card and electronic chip, he is sure to be paid when the transaction is validated by bank in live.
For foreign cards, I am not sure that they have this kind of facilities, so if they were victims of too many false they could become reluctant to accept it.

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