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Yet another doping threat (Viennese Blood)

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Old 16-01.-2008, 02:20 AM   #1
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Default Yet another doping threat (Viennese Blood)

I just browsed some European news outlets and came across the following story (in German)

'Wiener Blut' It is mostly about athletes from other endurance sports, but of course, there's always a few cyclists:

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Wien - Insgesamt werden mindestens 30 Athleten als Kunden der Blutbank verdächtigt, darunter auch die Radsportler Georg Totschnig (Österreich), früher beim deutschen Gerolsteiner-Team, Michael Rasmussen (Dänemark), Michael Boogerd (Niederlande) und Denis Mentschow (Russland). Totschnig bestreitet die erhobenen Vorwürfe.


You recognize the names of course even if you don't read German. From what I gather, it concerns blood doping. And of course, everyone named in the article denies any involvement. Seems another pile of steaming shit is headed straight to the big ceiling fan.
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Old 16-01.-2008, 03:35 AM   #2
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I just browsed some European news outlets and came across the following story (in German)

'Wiener Blut' It is mostly about athletes from other endurance sports, but of course, there's always a few cyclists:



You recognize the names of course even if you don't read German. From what I gather, it concerns blood doping. And of course, everyone named in the article denies any involvement. Seems another pile of steaming shit is headed straight to the big ceiling fan.

Only Totschnig denied. The others weren't asked. The main suspects are the who is who of German cross country skiing...
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Old 16-01.-2008, 03:48 AM   #3
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Only Totschnig denied. The others weren't asked. The main suspects are the who is who of German cross country skiing...
And biathlon ?
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Old 16-01.-2008, 04:05 AM   #4
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from feltet.dk:

According to German TV-station ARD, Rasmussen, and his two old Rabobank teammates Boogerd and Menchov, have been clients for an Austrian bloodbank

Also Georg Totschnig is mentioned as a client for the same bloodbank
http://www.feltet.dk/index.php?id_p...&id_nyhed=10431
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from feltet.dk:

According to German TV-station ARD, Rasmussen, and his two old Rabobank teammates Boogerd and Menchov, have been clients for an Austrian bloodbank

Also Georg Totschnig is mentioned as a client for the same bloodbank
http://www.feltet.dk/index.php?id_p...&id_nyhed=10431

It will be very interesting if he was a client in 2005. Sastre will finally get a GT--unless Sastre was also a client, in which case you need to go down to Tom Danielson in 8th place to find someone not involved in OP.

I think this is the same operation I posted a little info about a few days ago.
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Old 16-01.-2008, 04:59 AM   #6
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It will be very interesting if he was a client in 2005. Sastre will finally get a GT--unless Sastre was also a client, in which case you need to go down to Tom Danielson in 8th place to find someone not involved in OP.

I think this is the same operation I posted a little info about a few days ago.

Sastre has won the Vuelta the last four years


2007
1 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 80.59.07
2 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 3.31


2006
1 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Astana Team 81.23.07
2 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 1.12
3 Andrey Kashechkin (Kaz) Astana Team 3.12

4 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 3.35


2005
1 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank
2 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC


2004
1 Roberto Heras (Spa) Liberty Seguros 77.42.46
2 Santiago Perez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.30
3 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Banesto 2.13
4 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 3.30
5 Carlos Garcia Quesada (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 7.44
6 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 8.11


In 2003 Felix Cardenas won:

1 Roberto Heras (Spa) US Postal-Berry Floor 69.31.52
2 Isidro Nozal (Spa) O.N.C.E.-Eroski 0.28
3 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 2.25
4 Igor Gonzalez De Galdeano (Spa) O.N.C.E.-Eroski 3.27
5 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) iBanesto.com 4.47
6 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal-Berry Floor 5.51
7 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank 5.56
8 Felix Cardenas (Col) Labarca-2-Café Baqué 6.33
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I think this is the same operation I posted a little info about a few days ago.


I'm sorry, I didn't see/remember your post.
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me neither, sorry Bro Deal!
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I'm sorry, I didn't see/remember your post.

I think but I don't know. Inability to read German makes it difficult for me to say. It would be hilarious if it were a different one.
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Sastre has won the Vuelta the last four years
It's time to send an email to Spain, maybe they would reopen OP... a lot of victory for them .... but if Sastre is a OP rider ..
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Vienna blood bank: German tv station names cyclists - not biathlon athletes and cross-country skiers http://www.cyclingheroes.info/id1100.html

As always: denial, denial, denial.....
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Well, looking at how well the German biathlons have done so far, not a big surprise at all. I wonder what kind of treatment Ole-Einar Björndalen is having... Or the Norwegian skiiers...
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Sastre has won the Vuelta the last four years


Holy smokes you're right. I never thought about that. Maybe he can win it this year, too. Make it 5 in a row. And then next year and the year after. 7, the magic number.

Yes, the scandal is mostly about cross country skiers and biathlon. I don't follow those sports very much. Norway always has a few good skiers. And whenever they lose, they blame the Finnish for doping (which is probably true). I have a hard time to believe that biathlon or cross country are clean. But I would assume it's an even 'smaller' sport than cycling, so, less important. Except, of course in Germany where it is huge. If German TV stops broadcasting cycling, biathlon etc. they'll end up with no sports coverage at all.
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Well, looking at how well the German biathlons have done so far, not a big surprise at all. I wonder what kind of treatment Ole-Einar Björndalen is having... Or the Norwegian skiiers...
Do you forget Russians who are impressive too...
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......................... If German TV stops broadcasting cycling, biathlon etc. they'll end up with no sports coverage at all.
Which is probebly the reason that they named the cyclists, not the cross-skiers etc.

I don't buy it that they only know the cyclists.
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