Amnesty for Basso?

Crankyfeet

This thread is like 46 posts long. Apart from the OP... has there been one post about Basso yet?

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nns1400

Ummm...Basso is really hot...I think he should get amnesty...

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Andrija

Not a single one...

I don't think anyone should get amnesty. Riders dope, although they know what the consequences are, then get caught, 'cause they're bad cheaters. And, at the end they moan, 'cause the other cheaters were better in cheating and didn't get caught.
This sport became complete game... Talent, training, cheating... You have to be complete rider to make career in this sport.

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earth_dweller

No amnesty for Basso. So it's unfair he was singled out for OP, deal with it. It's also unfair to the clean riders that want to ride in the pro Tour.

Of course, he'll probably come back and call Ferrarri (if Contador can free him up)...

Crankyfeet

Yes...but at the moment... a few guys are taking all the crap... Cycling is taking the crap from every other sport that also has rife doping. And a few guys who are exposed are taking the flak for every pro rider, the UCI, pro teams, DS's, etc., etc.

Its like you are have been playing illegal poker in this guy's basement for years with 50 other guys and the cops come round and everyone runs but only you get caught... and the guy who owns the house is going ... "I never knew officer... there is only this one guy... and I thought he was practicing his flute down there".

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Andrija

You're right.
But, as I mentioned, it's complete game. Those who weren't caught (and we all know they're guilty too) obviously play better... Have better (more discreet) doctors, advocates, their corruption connections are better... Full package.

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UCI doesn't know how to handle things... They're not powerful like FIFA or UEFA or ATP tour. They don't know how to play top level game too... Make big enough money to avoid scandals... Where's big money there's interest to hide bad publicity (doping).
Maybe this approach is too banal, but I think it's true.

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The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer have to worry for your lives - they do not exist anymore.
So, forward to glory! For King and country! Long live the king! Long live Belgrade! "

TheDarkLord

Some are also just lucky. For e.g. the Spanish government will cover (or has been covering) the @$$es of most Spanish riders to protect football.

Crankyfeet

I think if your referring to failing drug tests... yes the ones who consistently pass are playing the "game" better... but I don't think that applies to OP and Festina type revelations. Those are just bad luck.

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Andrija

I'm sorry guys, I added an edit, but you already posted some replies.
With edit my point of view should be complete.

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"Soldiers! Heroes!

The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer have to worry for your lives - they do not exist anymore.
So, forward to glory! For King and country! Long live the king! Long live Belgrade! "

nns1400

I hope you guys know I was kidding about the amnesty...I just meant he should get if for being good-looking...

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earth_dweller

oh I'll give you that one.

So Hamilton should be barred for life.

Andrija

That's my point about power of organization and corruption.
How many people in different kind of industries would loose their jobs (and how big loss of related companies would be) if, for example, Ronaldinho gets two year suspension with additional two years of limited employment?

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The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer have to worry for your lives - they do not exist anymore.
So, forward to glory! For King and country! Long live the king! Long live Belgrade! "

nns1400

ROFL...

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Bro Deal

Jeebus. Four pages of this crap.

It seems like the ASO's switch to punishing teams rather than indidual riders could have an affect on Basso's future. He's not coming back to a team with aspirations of doing the Tour any time soon, even if the ProTour falls apart.

What CONI should do instead of letting Basso off is stick to the Spanish. If a national federation doesn't take the doping issue seriously then ban all their athletes from competition.

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