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Old 01-02.-2008, 10:44 AM   #16
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Yes, but do you think Hillary can bring people together? There is probably nobody who is more polarising than Hillary. In fact, if she becomes the Democratic candidate, it might encourage a number of people to actually come and vote . . . against her, that is.


I actually don't think that Hillary could bring Americans together : that was point.
I think she is very capable and I think she is probably the best candidate for the Dems...........but if she got elected, the polarisation which is there will remain.

I go on record as saying that Bill Clinton was the best US President in the second half of the 20th century.
The US economy roared ahead, even though Clinton inherited an economy in trouble.
Huge job creation, huge federal budget surplus, huge trade surplus, historically low unemployment : Clinton was good for America.
The US had unparalelled influence in foreign affairs (former Yugoslavia), agreements on GATT/world trade.
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Old 01-02.-2008, 10:56 AM   #17
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I actually don't think that Hillary could bring Americans together : that was point.
I think she is very capable and I think she is probably the best candidate for the Dems...........but if she got elected, the polarisation which is there will remain.

I go on record as saying that Bill Clinton was the best US President in the second half of the 20th century.
The US economy roared ahead, even though Clinton inherited an economy in trouble.
Huge job creation, huge federal budget surplus, huge trade surplus, historically low unemployment : Clinton was good for America.
The US had unparalelled influence in foreign affairs (former Yugoslavia), agreements on GATT/world trade.
I don't think the President of the US has as much influence over the economy as he likes to imagine. Just my 2c.
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Old 01-02.-2008, 02:16 PM   #18
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I don't think the President of the US has as much influence over the economy as he likes to imagine. Just my 2c.
Jesus, God.... Bill Clinton was not responsible for huge job creation. He just didn't get in the way...Cranky is right...I think that's worth at least 25 c
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Old 01-02.-2008, 02:42 PM   #19
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I don't favor either party - they're all bought and paid for. Having said that, for me, any Democratic candidate for president is better than any Republican. But I, too, dislike Hillary because I feel she's a pure political animal. And I used to say that I wouldn't vote for her no matter what. But a friend made a comment to me that changed my mind. He said, "We've had to suffer for eight years now under the Republicans. And in return there would be no better way to torture the right-wingers than to have the Clintons back in the White House." Yup. If she's running she's got my vote!

That's the sort of logic (sticking it to the previous president) that got us Dubya. It's time to move on from both the Clintons and the Bushes.
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That's the sort of logic (sticking it to the previous president) that got us Dubya. It's time to move on from both the Clintons and the Bushes.
No please not yet... Doesn't Dubya have some brothers?...And there's always Laura. Surely Bill and Hillary have some relatives that deserve to get a go as well. I mean its only a smallish country...there probably is only two families in the US who have Presidential capabilities...
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Lim, on your Edwards comment, I always believed he was the best shot for a Democrat win.
I am sorry but I don't think we have progressed enough to elect either a female or a non-white president,as yet.
This is an opinion not a stance so I wait to be proven wrong.
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Old 07-02.-2008, 12:45 AM   #22
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No matter what your political leanings are, I think it is silly to vote for anyone on the basis of one issue. There will probably never be a candidate that I agree with on every single issue (no, I'm not starting my own campaign). Then again, I think most all politicians are completely full of #$% anyway. If you want to experiment to see for yourself, write up 2 emails, one on each far side of an issue. Email your representative from 2 different email addresses, and see the responses you get. It's amazing the emails you get back. Anyway, I will vote, but to me it's definitely voting for what I feel is the lesser of 2 evils. Thanks for reading my 2 cents.
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If you vote for them it only encourages them.
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If you vote for them it only encourages them.
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Old 09-02.-2008, 05:49 PM   #26
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Did Obama actually say something? Aren't his speeches full of platitudes absent of even the normal gamut of vacuous promises politicians roll out in election years?

I am not an American, but if I was, Obama would be the last person I vote for.

i could see he's a good man. besides, every politician gives promises.
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I think Obama is a very nice fellow. I just get nervous when he mentions things like bombing Pakistan. Last I heard they were sort of on our side.Oh well.
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They all suck, its just determining which one sucks the least. Anyone, with the exception of Rotton Rudy is better than Dubbya, McCain isnt the answer though. I don't trust Hilary so, although my first choice is Dennis, second is John-Edwards that is, I've got to go Obammy.
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