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Beej Jorgensen

Mike Vandeman <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote:
>No response? I thought so.

That reminds me... I'm still waiting for that list of all types of
transportation you've ever used. We need to know which ones are
Vandeman-Approved.

-Beej

Mike Vandeman

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 15, 10:54*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 13, 11:33*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>>
>> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Feb 12, 8:27*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>>
>> >> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <pmhil...@verizon.net>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <vze2w...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >> >>news:9smkq313vssddb5nkhvtt3hj74jhhfqibe@4ax.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
>> >> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
>> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> >> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> >> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> >> >> >> >> > fond of!
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>>
>> >> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, *or creating any measurable
>> >> >> >> >> negative
>> >> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
>> >> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
>> >> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
>> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time.
>> >> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
>>
>> >> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
>> >> >> >> >entertainment. There's never *anything much to be gained by responding
>> >> >> >> >to his blatherings.
>> >> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his
>> >> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
>>
>> >> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
>> >> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
>>
>> >> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
>>
>> >> >> Prove it, liar.
>>
>> >> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
>>
>> >> Prove it, liar.
>>
>> No response? I thought so.
>>
>> >> *then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
>>
>> >This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
>> >more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
>> >now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
>> >"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
>> >silent as his dead cat Bob.
>> >"Silent Bob", hehe.
>
>Case closed.

In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
So very like a mountain biker....
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:17:41 +0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
<beej@beej.us> wrote:

>Mike Vandeman <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>No response? I thought so.
>
>That reminds me... I'm still waiting for that list of all types of
>transportation you've ever used. We need to know which ones are
>Vandeman-Approved.

I don't apoprove any of them, least of all mountain biking.

>-Beej
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Siskuwihane

On Feb 15, 8:55*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
>
>
>
>
> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 15, 10:54*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 13, 11:33*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
> >> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Feb 12, 8:27*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
> >> >> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <pmhil...@verizon.net>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <vze2w...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
> >> >> >> >> >>news:9smkq313vssddb5nkhvtt3hj74jhhfqibe@4ax.com...
>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
> >> >> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
> >> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> >> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> >> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> >> >> >> >> >> > fond of!
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
> >> >> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, *or creating any measurable
> >> >> >> >> >> negative
> >> >> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
> >> >> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
> >> >> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
> >> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for atime.
> >> >> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
>
> >> >> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
> >> >> >> >> >entertainment. There's never *anything much to be gained byresponding
> >> >> >> >> >to his blatherings.
> >> >> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for forhis
> >> >> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
>
> >> >> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
> >> >> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
>
> >> >> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
>
> >> >> >> Prove it, liar.
>
> >> >> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
>
> >> >> Prove it, liar.
>
> >> No response? I thought so.
>
> >> >> *then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
>
> >> >This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
> >> >more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
> >> >now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
> >> >"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
> >> >silent as his dead cat Bob.
> >> >"Silent Bob", hehe.
>
> >Case closed.
>
> In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
> So very like a mountain biker....

I don't own a mountain bike nor do I ride one, therefore I am not a
mountain biker, that makes you a LIAR.

pmh

On Feb 15, 10:49 pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 8:55 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
> > <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Feb 15, 10:54 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
> > >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
> > >> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>
> > >> >> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <pmhil...@verizon.net>
> > >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <vze2w...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> >> >> >>news:9smkq313vssddb5nkhvtt3hj74jhhfqibe@4ax.com...
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
> > >> >> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
> > >> >> >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> > >> >> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> > >> >> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> > >> >> >> >> >> > fond of!
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable
> > >> >> >> >> >> negative
> > >> >> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
> > >> >> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
> > >> >> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
> > >> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time.
> > >> >> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
>
> > >> >> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
> > >> >> >> >> >entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained by responding
> > >> >> >> >> >to his blatherings.
> > >> >> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his
> > >> >> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
>
> > >> >> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
> > >> >> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
>
> > >> >> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
>
> > >> >> >> Prove it, liar.
>
> > >> >> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
>
> > >> >> Prove it, liar.
>
> > >> No response? I thought so.
>
> > >> >> then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
>
> > >> >This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
> > >> >more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
> > >> >now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
> > >> >"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
> > >> >silent as his dead cat Bob.
> > >> >"Silent Bob", hehe.
>
> > >Case closed.
>
> > In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
> > So very like a mountain biker....
>
> I don't own a mountain bike nor do I ride one, therefore I am not a
> mountain biker, that makes you a LIAR.

To Mikey, anyone with whom he disagrees on any topic is perforce a
mountain biker. He labeled me a mountain biker years ago, yet I don't
know a single person who owns one!

PMH

Mike Vandeman

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:49:37 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 15, 8:55*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 15, 10:54*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>>
>> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Feb 13, 11:33*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>>
>> >> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Feb 12, 8:27*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
>>
>> >> >> >> <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16*pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <pmhil...@verizon.net>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <vze2w...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>news:9smkq313vssddb5nkhvtt3hj74jhhfqibe@4ax.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
>> >> >> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> >> >> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> >> >> >> >> >> > fond of!
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, *or creating any measurable
>> >> >> >> >> >> negative
>> >> >> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
>> >> >> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
>> >> >> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time.
>> >> >> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
>> >> >> >> >> >entertainment. There's never *anything much to be gained by responding
>> >> >> >> >> >to his blatherings.
>> >> >> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his
>> >> >> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
>> >> >> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
>>
>> >> >> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
>>
>> >> >> >> Prove it, liar.
>>
>> >> >> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
>>
>> >> >> Prove it, liar.
>>
>> >> No response? I thought so.
>>
>> >> >> *then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
>>
>> >> >This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
>> >> >more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
>> >> >now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
>> >> >"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
>> >> >silent as his dead cat Bob.
>> >> >"Silent Bob", hehe.
>>
>> >Case closed.
>>
>> In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
>> So very like a mountain biker....
>
>I don't own a mountain bike nor do I ride one, therefore I am not a
>mountain biker, that makes you a LIAR.

I didn't say you are, liar: "So very like a mountain biker". Idiot.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande