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Old 04-09.-2008, 04:03 AM   #226
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KP....................265W.......48.5kg....5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ēC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)

bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)
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Just a small update. I just finished my second FTP test of the year. Last week was my hardest week of the year TSS wise, but I've been setting some PB's so here they are:

Weight - 55 kg (I gained a kg since spring ), that's not a PB
1 min - 522 W, 9.5 W/kg (last Saturday)
5 min - 335 W, 6.07 W/kg (last Friday)
60 min - 267 W, 4.85 W/kg (today - indoors w/-17 TSB)

I hope this translates to a good result in our state HC championships in 10 days.
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Old 09-09.-2008, 01:19 PM   #227
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KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ēC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)

bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)

Just to up-date as to what it takes to just about medal at the olympics
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KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB

Just to up-date as to what it takes to just about medal at the olympics.
Congrats to Katharine (or is it Catharine)?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200.../?id=results/37
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That's pretty damn impressive. Absalon must be pushing 6+ in order to ride away from the field like that.

Hopefully I'll be able to post an update soon before the start of cyclocross season. I just did a 22 minute hillclimb at 309 watts (310 NP), which I am really happy about since I've been stagnant at about 303 watts since march (but still within the margin of error for the PT ).
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That's pretty damn impressive. Absalon must be pushing 6+ in order to ride away from the field like that.

Hopefully I'll be able to post an update soon before the start of cyclocross season. I just did a 22 minute hillclimb at 309 watts (310 NP), which I am really happy about since I've been stagnant at about 303 watts since march (but still within the margin of error for the PT ).

I am sure Absalon is over 6. I know Roland was well over 6 at his peak.

The top women, particularly the small ones, are actually fairly close to the top men in watts per kilo. It goes to show you that watt per kilo isn't everything, absolute wattage is important.
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It goes to show you that watt per kilo isn't everything, absolute wattage is important.


I think one reason for this is that the bike is usually forgotten in w/kg.For very light weight riders the weight of the bike makes big difference because the bike usually does not scale down with rider size (especially on road with minimum weight.)
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KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB

Just to up-date as to what it takes to just about medal at the olympics.


So how was that value for functional threshold power obtained? (Just curious...it's right in-line with what I'd expect based on other data, e.g., http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com...411/profile.asp)
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So how was that value for functional threshold power obtained? (Just curious...it's right in-line with what I'd expect based on other data, e.g., http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com...411/profile.asp)
Using an SRM. It was the average power for the first hour of an hour and 15 minute hill climb.
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KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ēC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)

Update. Testing completed this week. 10-mile (16km) TT on Tuesday and a MAP test today. Now back on full length cranks. C'mon Fergie, where are you?

I will leave my other listing there as a reminder. Started 3 months ago, with 100 watts for 15-minutes.
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KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ēC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
Swampy............259W.......88.5Kg....2.93W/kg (Iron lung boozehound)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)

First ride with PowerTap and first ride monitoring power since 1995. From the perceived "exhaustion" I think this is really the first hard ride I've done in something like 12 years. Way harder than all the hilly rides I've been doing that I thought were hard. Required stuffing it into a bigger gear for the last minute to keep the power constant with the prior 19 minutes.

It'll be interesting to see what the effect of my meds is as I did this test without - they've been giving me throat problems to the point where I can't speak too well
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KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ēC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
Swampy............259W.......88.5Kg....2.93W/kg (Iron lung boozehound)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Felt_Rider..........190W.........78kg.......2.43W/kg (club rider)
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Old 21-10.-2008, 02:03 AM   #237
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KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ēC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Sgrundy...............255W.......65kg.........3.92W/kg (Cat 4, NYC, 20'MMP * 0.95)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
Swampy............259W.......88.5Kg....2.93W/kg (Iron lung boozehound)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Felt_Rider..........190W.........78kg.......2.43W/kg (club rider)
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Thou shalt not post results whilst still feeling like crap... and forget to multiply by .9

Whoopsie.

Thankfully I'm a few pounds lighter and have blown the cobwebs out of the lungs but God damn my legs are effing sore these days. It's been interesting to note power, heart rate and perceived hip flexor destruction and hamstring death...

So, for the 'guestimate' from a 20 minute test, do I multiply by .9, .93 or .95 - there seems to be a few different values being used for this one.

KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ēC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Swampy............233W.......88.5Kg....2.63W/kg (rusty squeezebox lungs)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)
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So, for the 'guestimate' from a 20 minute test, do I multiply by .9, .93 or .95 - there seems to be a few different values being used for this one.

Swampy............233W.......88.5Kg....2.63W/kg (rusty squeezebox lungs)
0.95 is often used however it can range from 0.92 - 0.98.

A few thoughts:

i. Not everyone has same ratio of 20-min to 60-min power. Overall fitness as well as one's anaerobic work capacity can influence the ratio not to mention the test protocol (i.e. what you did before the 20-min test).

ii. This ratio can vary up/down for an individual through training.

iii. It's usually a good idea to have a 2nd check point for FTP.

e.g. if you did a full blown effort of ~ 5-min and used that along with your 20-min result in the Critical Power model, that might help you nail it down a little tighter.

Here are my thoughts on methods used to assess FTP:
http://alex-cycle.blogspot.com/2008...eadly-sins.html
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Thou shalt always use the latest list to update as well - by using an old one you've wiped out more recent updates....
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