Landis' last gasp

helmutRoole2

I can see that. I forgot about the FFF. It's probably a calculated risk, but I reserve the right to view him as a self absorbed dumb ass. I was trying to make the man fit the mold.

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Crankyfeet

Disagree with your view on that.

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Originally posted by Frigo's Luggage...

"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."

Crankyfeet

LOL...

Having your whole fake world and life collapse around you has a way of making you self-absorbed though. And since when did cyclists need to pass an aptitude test to make it as a pro?...

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Originally posted by Frigo's Luggage...

"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."

TheDarkLord

Care to elaborate on that? As I said, I don't know. I thought the majority was not scorning at Bonds.

C'dale Girl

Exactly. You speak the truth Bro, in THAT I believe.

When did it come out that Landis was divorcing and Amber left him btw? I hadn't heard that one until reading jimmypop's post, but it sounded like it was old news based on the tone of his post. Granted, I haven't been following everything for the last several months . . . .

nns1400

He's a *joke...there wasn't a whole hell of a lot of excitement about him breaking the *record, either, because it was like, oh well, he's doped.

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TheDarkLord

Confusing Helmut with Bro? How is that possible with their distinctively different avatars?

Crankyfeet

Marion Jones disgraced... Barry Bonds - has a few supporters in San Fran I imagine... but most of the public despise the fact that he has obviously doped himself and passed the greats Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth in the record books. Clemens is like a rabbit caught in a hunter's spotlight. He will lose a lot of his legacy if he goes down. That's why he started pleading innocent, even against another man's testimony. Now, like NNS has said, he has to cling to that initial lie... it just becomes even harder to fess up now. Mark McGwire took the fifth. Footballers get crucified for fighting dogs... I don't have much knowledge of football doping cases though. Ben Johnson... though he is Canadian.. its a similar culture... disgraced.

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Originally posted by Frigo's Luggage...

"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."

C'dale Girl

Well, I disagree with you on your disagreement of TDL's opinion.

Seriously, somebody in the recent past shared a study somewhere along the way that concluded that the majority of college hockey players (can't recall the %, but want to say it was like 75%), admitted to some sort of doping.

Ok, I've walked into many ice rinks and hockey crowd gatherings and shared this study in the last year, especially as it relates to those of use raising little hockey players. People couldn't care less. They shrug it off, turn away and say "hey, how 'bout those Redwings" to the person next to them. Or, they respond by saying, "Yeah, for what? Taking sudafed or something? Gimme a break already."

So, baseball discussions go somewhat the same imo. Doping is the elephant in the room that everyone knows exists but they don't want to talk about. The skeleton in their sports' closet that nobody speaks of. But, when it is forced to the forefront (Balco, Bonds, congressional hearings) then people relucantly speak their discontent, but only because they recognize the societal pressure and the fact that it is the "right thing to do." Political correctness at it's finest.

If a congressional issue (literally and figuratively) wasn't being made out of it, nobody would care and they'd simply keep screaming "play ball", without any in depth consideration about the underlying effects from doping.

thunder

Cdale, I told you that on a different forum. What is happening to your memory C.

C'dale Girl

My bad helmut. In Helmut I believe.

C'dale Girl

You still haven't taken that reading comprehension course have you? Reread my question please, focusing on "WHEN DID IT COME OUT?"

Bro Deal

Unless they will continue to give him money, fuck 'em.

I think FLandis should consider having a religious epiphany. After CAS rules against him, he should wait a couple of months, put his Kid Rock CDs in storage, and start going to church. He's just a innocent country boy who went astray when he ventured into the wide world. With his background and the religious zeal in America, people might buy it. If nothing else, it would make a good story.

After confessing all, he could bone up on his speaking skills and become inspirational speaker.

Think Millar's schtick writ large with a religious component.

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TheDarkLord

He would have to improve a LOT. He would have done much better if he didn't come up with "101 reasons why I tested positive in spite of being clean" when his positive test was announced.