Cadel attacks and wins!

Originally Posted by thunder

thing is he is a whinger, and he sort of supported Rasmussen and Contador.

Lotto had the belief Rass was gonna get tossed quite early, but you never really hear him allege anything about Contador and Rass, and if Landis and Basso are cheats, then those others are equally.

Ofcourse, omerta.

Originally Posted by thecyclist

Originally Posted by thunder

You have to reserve judgement. He was on Saeco, Mapei and TMobile.

He said the testing procedures were working, and the UCI was doing a good job (during 2007 tour).

Cyclingheroes interviewed him when he was at TMobile, and Cadel said he was working with Ferrari.

His manager is Tony Rominger.

There are lots in that, which one could consider incongruent with a clean rider. He may be clean, and have had to compromise his PR communications so he does not make a rod for his own back. He may have accepted injections at those teams without querying what was in the cartridge. He may not have many options for an agent.

But he does not act like a cleanskin, say Mcgee. But even Brad Mcgee has worked for riders, and been a leadout man, chased breaks, for riders who were probably compromised. There are no 7 degrees of separation, only incest.

Originally Posted by ilpirata

I agree with you. One has to reserve judgement. It could be that he is riding clean. It is something very new for me that one rider has called other riders cheaters (riders that have had a non negative control). This is unheard of.

Originally Posted by ilpirata

I agree with you. One has to reserve judgement. It could be that he is riding clean. It is something very new for me that one rider has called other riders cheaters (riders that have had a non negative control). This is unheard of.

Originally Posted by thunder

At the moment he just offers up the bromide soundbite that they all do.

Originally Posted by TheDarkLord

Was it Moreni who participated in a protest against dopers, and then tested positive himself? If he didn't test positive later, is there much difference between what he did and what Cadel has said now?.

Originally Posted by poulidor

Moreni didn't take part at the protest like others did. That was pointed when the Moreni case come out! Maybe he was not confortable to sit with the "rioters" after having used a patch on his balls.

Originally Posted by thunder

You have to reserve judgement. He was on Saeco, Mapei and TMobile.

He said the testing procedures were working, and the UCI was doing a good job (during 2007 tour).

Cyclingheroes interviewed him when he was at TMobile, and Cadel said he was working with Ferrari.

His manager is Tony Rominger.

There are lots in that, which one could consider incongruent with a clean rider. He may be clean, and have had to compromise his PR communications so he does not make a rod for his own back. He may have accepted injections at those teams without querying what was in the cartridge. He may not have many options for an agent.

But he does not act like a cleanskin, say Mcgee. But even Brad Mcgee has worked for riders, and been a leadout man, chased breaks, for riders who were probably compromised. There are no 7 degrees of separation, only incest.

Originally Posted by heinkel12

He did leave T-Mobile under a cloud though. Is there any news about what happened there?