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I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and as a result have been wearing the same
helmet since May '99 :-) I'm aware of all the arguments against keeping them and starting that debate is not the purpose of this post. I just thought that the way it failed was pretty dramatic and you might be interested to see the photo :-) http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...nt=DSCF0412.jpg I went over a very small jump that I am familiar with, but today I was feeling good and hit it much faster than normal. I messed up the launch and landed into a tree. My head hit hard and I was dazed for a bit but there does not seem to be any real damage. I think the helmet performed very well! I almost bought a new one on Monday - so glad I didn't :-) Brian |
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On Apr 4, 1:57 pm, Brian Watson <Brian.S.Wat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and as a result have been wearing the same > helmet since May '99 :-) I'm aware of all the arguments against > keeping them and starting that debate is not the purpose of this post. > > I just thought that the way it failed was pretty dramatic and you > might be interested to see the photo :-) > > http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...cles/?action=vi... > > I went over a very small jump that I am familiar with, but today I was > feeling good and hit it much faster than normal. I messed up the > launch and landed into a tree. My head hit hard and I was dazed for a > bit but there does not seem to be any real damage. I think the helmet > performed very well! > > I almost bought a new one on Monday - so glad I didn't :-) > > Brian At least it went out with a bang! Get a Giro helmet to replace it. I had a helmet that fitted the same way as your old one but the Giros have an adjustable framework inside them that fits very comfortably on your head, the difference is amazing. |
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Brian Watson wrote:
> I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and as a result have been wearing the same > helmet since May '99 :-) I'm aware of all the arguments against > keeping them and starting that debate is not the purpose of this post. > > I just thought that the way it failed was pretty dramatic and you > might be interested to see the photo :-) > > http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...nt=DSCF0412.jpg > > I went over a very small jump that I am familiar with, but today I was > feeling good and hit it much faster than normal. I messed up the > launch and landed into a tree. My head hit hard and I was dazed for a > bit but there does not seem to be any real damage. I think the helmet > performed very well! > > I almost bought a new one on Monday - so glad I didn't :-) > > Brian Nice work. Have you seen the article in the Australian newspaper today about compulsory helmets and helmet wearing in general? I don't want to start a debate about helmet law (sh*t, I think I might have already). It looks to me that in this case the helmet saved you from a potentially nasty head injury. The life of one of my helmets ended saving my head although the damage was less dramatic. I only realised the helmet was broken by inspecting it closely sometime after the off. DeF -- e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au To reply, you'll have to remove your finger. |
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On Apr 4, 2:32 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
wrote: > Nice work. Have you seen the article in the Australian newspaper > today about compulsory helmets and helmet wearing in general? I > don't want to start a debate about helmet law (sh*t, I think I > might have already). It looks to me that in this case the helmet > saved you from a potentially nasty head injury. The life of one > of my helmets ended saving my head although the damage was less > dramatic. I only realised the helmet was broken by inspecting it > closely sometime after the off. > > DeF > > -- > e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au > To reply, you'll have to remove your finger. Sometimes I forget to put my helmet on if it's not dangling from the 'bars which can happen when I change bikes. I kind of like riding without it, though I'm conditioned so that it feels weird once I notice (or I notice because it feels weird). I still need to wear a hat instead because I need *some* sun protection. I made a conscious choice not to wear a helmet the other day while heading off for a relaxed, slow trundle along the off road bike path, felt good. Let the flame war commence :-) |
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On Apr 4, 1:32 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
wrote: .... > The life of one > of my helmets ended saving my head although the damage was less > dramatic. I only realised the helmet was broken by inspecting it > closely sometime after the off. Ditto here. I had a front washout on an off-camber corner in the wet.. smacked down on my left shoulder and head. Helmet saved the side of my head from a very nasty whack into the asphalt. duncan |
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lemmiwinks.au@gmail.com wrote:
> Let the flame war commence :-) ooooh! You''re askin' for it! Hehe :-) |
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On 2008-04-04, Brian Watson (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea: > I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and as a result have been wearing the same > helmet since May '99 :-) I'm aware of all the arguments against > keeping them and starting that debate is not the purpose of this post. > > I just thought that the way it failed was pretty dramatic and you > might be interested to see the photo :-) > > http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...nt=DSCF0412.jpg 'sok! You can glue it back together! Good as new! -- TimC When the revolution comes, we'll need a longer wall. -- Tom De Mulder |
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On Apr 4, 2:32 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
wrote: ..snip.. Have you seen the article in the Australian newspaper > today about compulsory helmets and helmet wearing in general? Do you mean this one? http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...6-30417,00.html I hadn't, but have now. I know one case does not affect the science, but I'm glad I was wearing mine today. Brian |
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On Apr 4, 2:32 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au">
wrote: ..snip.. Have you seen the article in the Australian newspaper > today about compulsory helmets and helmet wearing in general? Do you mean this one? http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...6-30417,00.html I hadn't, but have now. I know one case does not affect the science, but I'm glad I was wearing mine today. Brian |
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Brian Watson wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2:32 pm, DeF <""d.farrow\"@your finger.murdoch.edu.au"> > wrote: > > ..snip.. Have you seen the article in the Australian newspaper >> today about compulsory helmets and helmet wearing in general? > > Do you mean this one? > > http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...6-30417,00.html > > I hadn't, but have now. I know one case does not affect the science, > but I'm glad I was wearing mine today. > > Brian Yep, that's the one. This is a hoary old chestnut that comes out every now and again. Both sides to the argument point to the same data and say it supports their position. Having not seen the data I wouldn't like to comment. -- e-mail: d.farrow@your finger.murdoch.edu.au To reply, you'll have to remove your finger. |
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"Brian Watson" <Brian.S.Watson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5de702c6-f363-4837-bb7c-5bfd3e12c54a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and as a result have been wearing the same > helmet since May '99 :-) I'm aware of all the arguments against > keeping them and starting that debate is not the purpose of this post. > > I just thought that the way it failed was pretty dramatic and you > might be interested to see the photo :-) > > http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...nt=DSCF0412.jpg Brian; that's the best argument for wearing a helmet I've ever seen - imagine how you'd look if you hadn't been wearing it - you'd look like the helmet! |
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It died doing what it loved.... that's the main thing.
"Brian Watson" <Brian.S.Watson@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5de702c6-f363-4837-bb7c-5bfd3e12c54a@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > I'm a bit of a retro-grouch and as a result have been wearing the same > helmet since May '99 :-) I'm aware of all the arguments against > keeping them and starting that debate is not the purpose of this post. > > I just thought that the way it failed was pretty dramatic and you > might be interested to see the photo :-) > > http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...nt=DSCF0412.jpg > > I went over a very small jump that I am familiar with, but today I was > feeling good and hit it much faster than normal. I messed up the > launch and landed into a tree. My head hit hard and I was dazed for a > bit but there does not seem to be any real damage. I think the helmet > performed very well! > > I almost bought a new one on Monday - so glad I didn't :-) > > Brian |
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"Brian Watson" wrote: > I messed up the launch and landed into a tree. My head hit hard and > I was dazed for a bit but there does not seem to be any real damage. > I think the helmet performed very well! You are very lucky! The helemt failed and you could have suffered serious injury if your speed had been a bit higher. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmet "Anecdotal evidence A common misunderstanding is to assume that a broken helmet has prevented some serious injury. "the main impact was to my head. So much so, that my helmet broke in two (as it is designed to do). Without the helmet, it would have been my head that was broken and I wouldn't be writing this blog entry! I'd be dead..."[47] Helmets are designed to crush without breaking; expanded polystyrene absorbs little energy in brittle failure and once it fails no further energy is absorbed. To prevent overt fragmentation, the foam in most helmets is reinforced inside with plastic netting to keep the foam together." -- Cheers Peter ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) |
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PeteSig wrote:
> "Brian Watson" wrote: > >> I messed up the launch and landed into a tree. My head hit hard and >> I was dazed for a bit but there does not seem to be any real damage. >> I think the helmet performed very well! > > You are very lucky! The helemt failed and you could have suffered serious > injury if your speed had been a bit higher. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmet > "Anecdotal evidence > A common misunderstanding is to assume that a broken helmet has prevented > some serious injury. "the main impact was to my head. So much so, that my > helmet broke in two (as it is designed to do). Without the helmet, it would > have been my head that was broken and I wouldn't be writing this blog entry! > I'd be dead..."[47] Helmets are designed to crush without breaking; expanded > polystyrene absorbs little energy in brittle failure and once it fails no > further energy is absorbed. To prevent overt fragmentation, the foam in most > helmets is reinforced inside with plastic netting to keep the foam > together." > > So did it save his head or didn't it? Was he "lucky", or has he "prevented serious injury" due to a concious decision to wear a helmet? Has he been reported in any statistical evidence demonstrating the effectiveness of helmets, or is it just "anecdotal" evidence that can be disregarded? |
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Davo wrote:
> PeteSig wrote: >> You are very lucky! The helemt failed and you could have suffered >> serious injury if your speed had been a bit higher. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmet >> "Anecdotal evidence >> A common misunderstanding is to assume that a broken helmet has >> prevented some serious injury. Helmets are >> designed to crush without breaking; expanded polystyrene absorbs >> little energy in brittle failure and once it fails no further energy >> is absorbed. To prevent overt fragmentation, the foam in most >> helmets is reinforced inside with plastic netting to keep the foam >> together." > So did it save his head or didn't it? > > Was he "lucky", or has he "prevented serious injury" due to a concious > decision to wear a helmet? Who kows? Would he have been doing such a risky thing if he didn't have a helmet to rely on? I'm with Pete on this. A helmet in pieces, failed, and you are lucky to be alive. Theo |
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