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06-04.-2008, 11:49 PM

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Re: Bruyneel talking shite

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Originally Posted by limerickman

I agree he is talking shite.
That's what we've come to expect from the likes of him.

Any knowledgable fan of the sport would know that all of the grand tours and major stage races have races within races.
The GT's have the KOM, Green Jersey, Team competitions - as well as best young rider, most agressive rider competitions.
Knowledgable fans follow these races within races with a great level of interest, as well as the overall race result.

Bruyneel's comments underscore his disrespect for the sport, the riders and the (knowledgeable) fans.

The disrespect for the sport has come from the aso The organization has tried to become bigger than the sport. It's there way or no way and they aren't doing such a wonderful job.

07-04.-2008, 12:25 AM

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Re: Bruyneel talking shite

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The disrespect for the sport has come from the aso The organization has tried to become bigger than the sport. It's there way or no way and they aren't doing such a wonderful job.

face it, the American audience is a miniscule part of the audience for cycling, and particularly the Tour. It's the casual fans in Europe that are important, not a tiny handful of pissed off 'America's Favourite Team' fans.

At the end of the day, there'll be new rivalries and new stars this year. Remember 1999 - who was in the Tour that year? None of the big names - and look what happened that year. At the end of the day, the race is bigger than the riders and it is the race that makes 'stars' or breaks them - they certainly aren't ordained by order of Bruyneel.

07-04.-2008, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by obxbes

The disrespect for the sport has come from the aso The organization has tried to become bigger than the sport. It's there way or no way and they aren't doing such a wonderful job.

Difficult to understand your statement without explanation. Are you speaking from Astana's exclusion? Or ?...

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07-04.-2008, 03:06 AM

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Re: Bruyneel talking shite

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Originally Posted by Bike N Ski

snip... it's the individual drama that is captivating to the masses, a big part of which will be missing from this year's tour for the masses.

Have to disagree with you here. As other have said, there will be new rivalries during the Tour, and we will all be enthralled and watch it. No need to hark to Contador et al.

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07-04.-2008, 07:25 PM

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Re: Bruyneel talking shite

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Originally Posted by Bike N Ski

Any knowledgable fan of the sport would know that all of the grand tours and major stage races have races within races

JB pretty much nailed it for the masses. Either he is not a "knowledgeable fan of the sport" or his comments are intendeded to the casual cycling fan that may have something better to do with his/her time than watch a watered down race. IMO, his comments aren't directed to the minority of knowledgeable fans but to the majority of casual fans who would enjoy the drama of last years winner defending his title. The many casual fans that I know are interested in what races Contador will be in so they can watch. They also could give two shite's about Disco or Astana. It's not the bike or the team - it's the individual drama that is captivating to the masses, a big part of which will be missing from this year's tour for the masses.

You'll find that here in Europe the sport has been followed - and will always be followed - regardless of who may or may not be racing.
Mr Bruyneel, given his European nationality, should know this.

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07-04.-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by limerickman

You'll find that here in Europe the sport has been followed - and will always be followed - regardless of who may or may not be racing.
Mr Bruyneel, given his European nationality, should know this.

Whilst the exploits of the riders contribute to the history of racing, it is the races themselves - the cobbles of P-R, the climbs of Flanders, the challenges of the Giro and the Tour and the Vuelta - the parcours, the atmosphere, the traditions that make racing great. Though there is, of course, a symbiosis between rider and race, it is the race that makes stars of the riders, not the 'star' riders who make the race. Lile Lim says, Bruyneel should know that - but then he has shown his disrespect for the traditions and history of cycling by what he practices, as well as what he preaches.

07-04.-2008, 09:47 PM

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snip... Lim says, Bruyneel should know that - but then he has shown his disrespect for the traditions and history of cycling by what he practices, as well as what he preaches.

As others have said, I think Bruyneel knows but is saying what he would be expected to be saying in such circumstances. He definitely seems to be missing the changing environment around him though...

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08-04.-2008, 03:43 AM	#23
thecyclist Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 287	Re: Bruyneel talking shite Bruyneel dosn't know what he is talking about. Like we saw in Pais Vasco today Contador makes it boring because he will attack and we already know beforehand that no one can follow him. He even makes the same victory salute everytime. He might win all the stages in this race.

08-04.-2008, 03:57 AM

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Bruyneel dosn't know what he is talking about.

Like we saw in Pais Vasco today Contador makes it boring because he will attack and we already know beforehand that no one can follow him. He even makes the same victory salute everytime.

He might win all the stages in this race.

No, I don't think JB is naive. He is spewing out all this crap because it is his boy that was prevented from racing. Do you think he would raise a voice if a very competent rider from the opposition was banned similarly? In such a scenario you will probably see crap from him about how it is important to ban such riders for a fair sport.

08-04.-2008, 04:04 AM

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So, Alberto attacks and you find that to be boring..................what a strange fellow you must be: perhaps you prefer the likes of Evans who loves to suck wheels (there was one recent exception) now that is what I would call boring. Why do you wish to deny talent above the average?..............is it envy?

08-04.-2008, 04:08 AM

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Let me guess, legs spread and pointing to his Astana team jersey?

You should read the tripe that Velonews has on the stage coming from Sean Yates.

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“He’s the best rider in the world and he just proved it again today,” Astana sport director Sean Yates told VeloNews. “He just rode it off the wheel and took it all the way to the line. That’s the way to stick it to them, eh?”

Then Velonews goes on to write, themselves, "Contador’s been bent on winning just to prove he’s cycling’s alpha male despite being thwarted of a chance to defend his Tour title."

Give me a break! Alpha male?

The whole article is here: http://www.velonews.com/article/743...s-basque-opener

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http://www.velonews.com/article/743...s-basque-opener

Andrew Hood the Bruyneel Brown-Noser.... just how many free Madones did they give him?

08-04.-2008, 04:37 AM

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Cadel dosn't make the races boring. If he dosn't attack, some one else will.

But I guess you prefer to see Armstrong-like machines crushing the field rather than an exciting and close race where we don't know the outcome in advance.

08-04.-2008, 04:45 AM	#29
thecyclist Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 287	Re: Bruyneel talking shite It was that gun celebration. I'm not sure if he did the other things as well. And Andrew Hood that's the guy who tried to convince everyone last summer that Contador was not involved in puerto. Last edited by thecyclist : 08-04.-2008 at 04:52 AM.

08-04.-2008, 04:51 AM

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There is a difference though. Sure, riders have their ups and downs, but do you really think that races that are consistently dominated by one rider are interesting? Isn't it much more exciting to see a group of riders duke it out (including breaks that get caught) so that it is not at all clear until the very end as to who is gonna win the race? I find such a race a lot more interesting to watch than one where a rider attacks early into the race and finishes first with a solo effort.

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