How much can I increase my FTP?

kmavm

Yes, yes, yes. You've made your little point, ok? If you find people talking in a quantitative and analytical way about cycling so very frustrating, might I suggest you take it to some other venue, where your amazing old-timey insights about the importance of smoking cigarettes to open up the lungs before climbs won't be lost on your audience?

acoggan

Non-sequitor: the only connection between the training levels and the Performance Manager is that both are influenced by the value of functional threshold power.

Steve_B

For those that are just starting out training, it is perhaps somewhat understandable for some to be a bit compulsive over details because they want to do things right. After a few years as a "bikegamer", you tend to learn what is important and what is not important and what details need attention and what don't.

I've been at this stuff for over 15 years and I have found that using a power meter and paying attention to training at a proper intensity is one of those details that is important and I feel that it is hard to replicate the same results going by PE/HR/whatever alone. You can improve without it but the results with it are objectively better, especially when you are not new to the sport (thus considered "well trained") and are trying to squeeze the last little bit out of your legs.

You seem to like to slag off things that you don't understand. To mock attention to these sorts of details, such as you repeatedly do, shows quite a bit of ignorance, IMO.

Steve_B

Question for Urkiola2: Having extablished a basis of understanding (above), what proportion of time were the overtrained riders spending in either area versus the properly trained. Do you have any idea?

Urkiola2

1st of all, I would like to make clear that I don´t believe that there are just 2 training zones. I just made a comment about intense and endurance training and maybe some think that I just believe in 2 zones. No, I won´t just get into that obvious argument about what is endurance training or endurance sport and what is an intense sport or intense training.

Concerning the question above, and with 6 zones model (L1-L6) those riders were doing more training at L4-L5 than what they did at L2. That is maybe one day a week L2 and about 3-4 L4-L5, even with 2-3 recovery days. 3-4L4-L5 days/week is hard already for top pros...and it could be even harder to cyclists who work full time.

Cheers

Alex Simmons

I'm sure we could detect that change with the Chung method

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swampy1970

LOL

.... I'm glad that someone spotted the twisted attempt at humor. Maybe it was an attempt at twisted humor or just humor that's not as twisted as it might be.

If you run analysis software on a PII processor (the first batch that has the math co-processor with the floating point error) does that change the FTP to something higher than it should be. Ficticiously Tailored to Pain?