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I am pretty sure Lemond has emails from Burke recently deceased, Trek owner and founder, that Armstrong probably doped, but was making them so much money he had to STFU.
That will be interesting if that comes out in the lawsuit. |
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italiano think VT need clicks, clicks, clicks, clicks...VT probably amature jorno with chip on shoulder...
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I'm nearly 100% sure that is correct. He only had one removed, nor was he ever prescribed testosterone or had TUE for it once he was back racing. The one good ball's production of T is ramped up, so you return to normal levels without the need for testosterone replacement. |
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that was not the point. The point was, did he get permission to use it. Even after a unilateral orchiectomy they natural testo levels should be normal. But look at all the ruses cyclists, and Armstrong in particular, justified boosting his crit in the Canarys from 42 to 49, with no reality in the science. |
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It was the point to which I was responding since someone posted he had both removed and speculated he would have needed T replacement. As far as I know he did not get a TUE for testosterone, and I believe this speculation has been put to rest previously. |
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ok. |
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Lemond is the athlete Armstrong wished he could be. |
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Which interestingly, does not fit with the La Vie Claire timeline. He had passed thru Tapie's squad by then. Maso reckons the last clean win, was Lemond's second victory. |
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Where is he posting or writing now? He used to post good stuff on RBR but I haven't seen anything by him in a long time. |
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not sure if he is posting anywhere. But that was his position. |
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I support the ILO cause and believe the likes of Armstrong, Landis and Hamilton should be locked up. My little boy is terrified that if these people allowed to roam the countryside they will come in the night and drink his blood. They even caught Hamilton doing it at the Vuelta and banned him for it.
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Well, let me see. One very simple, but damning piece of evidence would be the fact that Greg held the record for highest speed in a time trial over 10km for his efforts in the 1989 TdF at 54.545 km per hour. On the last stage. And he was only beaten by a TT specialist who had peaked for the first stage in 2005. He is at a massive dissadvantage compared to todays riders in terms of aerodynamics, and in terms of superior doping products. If you take away any form of doping from Greg Lemonds performance that day it is nothing short of impossible. |
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Weren't there other factors that contributed to that performance, like a big tailwind the whole way? |
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