Amstel Gold

classic1

I was looking at some old Amstel results at this website (which has some very interesting articles BTW)
http://www.bikeraceinfo.com/classic...mstelindex.html
and came across these results
1996
1. Stefano Zanini 253 km in 5hr 56min 36sec 42.69 km/hr
2.Mauro Bettin@ 22sec
3. Johan Museeuw s.t.


1997
1. Bjarne Riis 6hr 11min 19sec 258 km 41.704 km/hr
2. Andrea Tafi @ 46sec
3. Beat Zberg s.t.

Did anyone ever see these races? Two incredible rides. I'm not sure I've seen too many rides like them. Extreme examples of the wonders of EPO.

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Collingwood - 2008 AFL Premiers

classic1 is on the bandwagon early this year

Powerful Pete

I agree it would not make things more interesting, I just wanted to know to think more about who might do better in bad weather...

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Eldrack

CSC attacking again, and again and again. Guess they are pretty confident in Frank's abilities to close this one out on the Cauberg.

TheDarkLord

But most attacks have not been very successful so far. Okay, Terpstra did manage to get off the bunch and join the breakway group; but the breakaway is not too far ahead of the peloton.

Edited to add: Ha! By the time I finished this post, the breakaway was caught!

TheDarkLord

So, it is Cunego, Frank Schleck and Valverde who podium. The last few km were very nice!

Eldrack

Really lit up in the last 10 miles or so, interesting finale to watch. When they where half way up the Cauberg I thought Valverde had it in the bag, but his legs evidently weren't up to capitilising on his positioning. Good positioning by Cunego, I can see him being a contender at FW and LBL...

whiteboytrash

Good race again. Although think Shleck could have won if he didn't almost ride down the motorcycle route. Cuengo was able to shift across but Shleck had to slow.... and agreed the last 15km was electric.

Crankyfeet

Well done Bro and Drongo. Bro is doing real well on the picks with his MSR pick coming first as well. From now on I'll just wait for his pick first...

Powerful Pete

Excellent ride by Cunego... helping to save Italian honor in the classics season this year (has been slim pickings until this win).

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thunder

name the clean guy on the podium

confusedfan

knowing you, you're probably thinking the presenter was the only clean guy on the podium (or the podium girl, but then you wouldn't have said 'guy')

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thunder

hey, dont be cheeky Confused. It is too complicated for you, can't confuse your confusion. thats a double negative I don't even know the result of

confusedfan

ok then, "conventional wisdom" for what it's worth says that Cunego was doped for his Giro win and hadn't had good results after because he wasn't, so now that he's getting results again perhaps he's on the good stuff again. I know that your opinion is that the Schlecks are both doping, regardless of the CSC anti-doping program. So, I'll say that Valverde is the clean one because he's probably under the closest scrutiny after getting away with no sanctions after Puerto ... do I win?

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thunder

nope.

Answer D - All of the above are doping.

Just not as hot as previous years.