Cycling at schools - bike size/saddle height

David Hansen

On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:42:48 +0100 someone who may be Mark
<i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote this:-

>I
>spoke to the head honcho at the council today. Apparently on the first
>session one of the trainers thought that my daughter was not safe when
>doing an emergency stop. Unfortunately the exact reason has not been
>fed back to me; various reasons have been mentioned but I have no idea
>of their authenticity. Someone suggested that a smaller bike might be
>easier. However this was mangled by the time it got to me into "the
>bike is too big".

What are they going to do to try and prevent such mangling in
future?

>I wrote a letter which was sent to the LEA via the school quoting
>cyclecraft. However they are still keeping to their position, albeit
>slightly watered down.

Council officials would generally rather die than admit they got
something wrong.

>Anyway it's all academic now since they are saying that, because she
>missed the first session, she cannot rejoin the course part way so
>apparently there was no chance of doing anything about it!

She only missed it because of them. What are they going to do to put
right the problem they caused? Don't get mad, get even.




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David Hansen

On Fri, 9 May 2008 12:18:37 +0100 someone who may be "Clive George"
<clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote this:-

>Deeply crap. OTOH take heart that if you've got any nous, you'll be able to
>teach her all that was covered in the course yourself.

That does not help fix things for others. Unless these things are
fixed the same mistakes continue to be made and more people go
through the hassle.

Does this <http://www.ctsb.org.uk> thingy have a way of checking up
on the competence of instructors and dealing with complaints that
they have done something wrong?


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David Hansen, Edinburgh
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Mark

On Fri, 9 May 2008 12:18:37 +0100, "Clive George"
<clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>"Mark" <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote in message
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>
>> Anyway it's all academic now since they are saying that, because she
>> missed the first session, she cannot rejoin the course part way so
>> apparently there was no chance of doing anything about it!
>>
>> GRRR :-(
>
>Deeply crap. OTOH take heart that if you've got any nous, you'll be able to
>teach her all that was covered in the course yourself.

Agreed, but in today's "box ticking" world it's official documents
that count :-(

>(of course, if you've already done that, the opportunity where she got to
>feel superior to her mates during the course coz she already knew it all has
>now been missed. Which is sad.)

I had hoped that the official training would offer her something
better that I could deliver. I'm not a teacher.

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Mark

On Fri, 09 May 2008 12:40:11 +0100, David Hansen
<SENDdavidNOhSPAM@spidacom.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:42:48 +0100 someone who may be Mark
><i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote this:-
>
>>I
>>spoke to the head honcho at the council today. Apparently on the first
>>session one of the trainers thought that my daughter was not safe when
>>doing an emergency stop. Unfortunately the exact reason has not been
>>fed back to me; various reasons have been mentioned but I have no idea
>>of their authenticity. Someone suggested that a smaller bike might be
>>easier. However this was mangled by the time it got to me into "the
>>bike is too big".
>
>What are they going to do to try and prevent such mangling in
>future?

No one seems particularly interested in learning from this AFAICT.
From my perspective it's not certain who was at fault. I have had at
least three versions of what happened, all contradicting each other.

>>I wrote a letter which was sent to the LEA via the school quoting
>>cyclecraft. However they are still keeping to their position, albeit
>>slightly watered down.
>
>Council officials would generally rather die than admit they got
>something wrong.
>
>>Anyway it's all academic now since they are saying that, because she
>>missed the first session, she cannot rejoin the course part way so
>>apparently there was no chance of doing anything about it!
>
>She only missed it because of them. What are they going to do to put
>right the problem they caused? Don't get mad, get even.

I agree. However my main aim was for her to be included in this
session with her friends. This is now impossible because this course
has finished and the training staff are moving on somewhere else.

I can complain (and I have not ruled out this option) but I am not
sure to whom and about which part of it.

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