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Old 25-04.-2008, 07:14 AM   #1
Tim Hall
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Default Police cyclists

Seen on youtube:

<http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>


and

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jT6qGB5GA&NR=1


Police cyclists demonstrating the superior training they get.


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I understand very little of what's being discussed
but for some reason it's fascinating.

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Old 25-04.-2008, 07:50 AM   #2
Martin Dann
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Tim Hall wrote:
> Seen on youtube:
>
> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>


Lol, If the police caught a mere mortal doing that, that person would
get a FPN. I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.


> and
>
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jT6qGB5GA&NR=1


Pulling wheelies for the hell of it is just plain stupid, you would not
catch me doing it. (He is also riding on a foot path).
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Old 25-04.-2008, 07:55 AM   #3
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Martin Dann wrote:
>
> Tim Hall wrote:
>> Seen on youtube:
>>
>> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>

>
> Lol, If the police caught a mere mortal doing that, that person would
> get a FPN. I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.
>
>
>> and
>>
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jT6qGB5GA&NR=1

>
> Pulling wheelies for the hell of it is just plain stupid,


Surely pulling a wheelie for any other reason is just plain stupid!

He obviously needs a lot more practice as he hasn't even mastered
falling off properly.

> you would not
> catch me doing it. (He is also riding on a foot path).

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Old 25-04.-2008, 02:58 PM   #4
Tom Crispin
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Default Re: Police cyclists

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:50:03 GMT, Martin Dann <martin.dann@virgin.net>
wrote:

>
>Tim Hall wrote:
>> Seen on youtube:
>>
>> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>

>
>Lol, If the police caught a mere mortal doing that, that person would
>get a FPN. I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.
>
>
>> and
>>
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jT6qGB5GA&NR=1

>
>Pulling wheelies for the hell of it is just plain stupid, you would not
>catch me doing it. (He is also riding on a foot path).


I've seen some very impressive displays of wheelies by 15 year old
kids. It seems a far more suitable and healthy passtime for children
of that age than many of the other things they could be getting up to.
Though with a low speed fall directly onto a hard surface it may be
appropriate to wear a helmet.

Riding on a footway which is not by the side of a road is perfectly
legal unless the footpath has a specific cycling prohibition.
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Old 25-04.-2008, 05:07 PM   #5
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Martin Dann wrote:
>
> Tim Hall wrote:
>> Seen on youtube:
>>
>> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>

>
> Lol, If the police caught a mere mortal doing that, that person would
> get a FPN. I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.
>
>
>> and
>>
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jT6qGB5GA&NR=1

>
> Pulling wheelies for the hell of it is just plain stupid, you would not
> catch me doing it. (He is also riding on a foot path).


Surely the only people to complain about wheelies are those who would
like to do it but can't.

I'd love to be able to do a wheelie. I thought that my ability to ride a
unicycle would help, but apparently not.

Practice, practice, practice.....
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Old 25-04.-2008, 07:20 PM   #6
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On 25 Apr, 06:58, Tom Crispin <kije.rem...@this.bit.freeuk.com.munge>
wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:50:03 GMT, Martin Dann <martin.d...@virgin.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Tim Hall wrote:
> >> Seen on youtube:

>
> >> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>

>
> >Lol, If the police caught a mere mortal doing that, that person would
> >get a FPN. I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.

>
> >> and

>
> >>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jT6qGB5GA&NR=1

>
> >Pulling wheelies for the hell of it is just plain stupid, you would not
> >catch me doing it. (He is also riding on a foot path).

>
> I've seen some very impressive displays of wheelies by 15 year old
> kids.


Same here. Better than any copper. Recently I also saw some pretty
impressive displays of 15 yr old kids doing wheelies on a motor-
scooter. Easily 10m.
I used to call the cops but recently stopped caring.
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Old 25-04.-2008, 08:37 PM   #7
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Rob Horton said the following on 25/04/2008 09:07:

> Surely the only people to complain about wheelies are those who would
> like to do it but can't.


I bet you're right there! Life is supposed to be fun, and if pulling a
wheelie is fun, then do it :-) I have been known to find a quiet spot
in the local woods and practise wheelying my MTB. An essential off-road
skill, of course!

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Old 25-04.-2008, 08:50 PM   #8
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:50:03 GMT, Martin Dann <martin.dann@virgin.net>
wrote:

>
>Tim Hall wrote:
>> Seen on youtube:
>>
>> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>

>
>Lol, If the police caught a mere mortal doing that, that person would
>get a FPN. I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.


Some motorists pass that close when overtaking...

>> and
>>
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_jT6qGB5GA&NR=1

>
>Pulling wheelies for the hell of it is just plain stupid, you would not
>catch me doing it. (He is also riding on a foot path).


LOL

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Old 25-04.-2008, 09:44 PM   #9
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On Apr 24, 11:14*pm, Tim Hall <timh...@nospamtoday.clara.co.uk> wrote:

> Police cyclists demonstrating the superior training they get.


Taking a slightly different angle, the subject of training for police
cyclists has come up a few times. The reader comments under this
article

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co...=2&page=1#views

are quite interesting. There's a reference to Cyclecraft, although
it's not clear if they mean Franklin's book are the subject in
general.

The only time I've seen a PCSO on a bike in Gloucestershire, he was in
the gutter in what looked like ordinary uniform, so if he'd been on
the training, it hadn't worked.

Rob
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Old 25-04.-2008, 10:44 PM   #10
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Martin Dann <martin.dann@virgin.net> wrote:
> Tim Hall wrote:



I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.
>


You haven't lived :-)

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Old 26-04.-2008, 04:25 AM   #11
Tom Crispin
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT), james.delap@googlemail.com
wrote:

>On Apr 25, 1:44 pm, leand...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> On Apr 24, 11:14 pm, Tim Hall <timh...@nospamtoday.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Police cyclists demonstrating the superior training they get.

>>
>> Taking a slightly different angle, the subject of training for police
>> cyclists has come up a few times. The reader comments under this
>> article
>>
>> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co...?nodeId=258119&...
>>

>
>I am staggered that the councillors are moaning about GBP700 for an
>equipped police bike on that grounds that halfords sell cheaper bikes
>and questioning whether training for police cyclists might be
>necessary. Aren't councillors supposed to have professional staff to
>advise them on topics that they haven't got a clue about. On balance,
>the reader comments are a bit more encouraging.


I can see the councillors' point.

If cycling is a normal everyday activity, why can't a community
support officer use an ordinary bike to get around? Does it have to
be a specially equipped? Do they need special training?

OK - city police, chasing handbag grabbers, shoplifters or drug
dealers down and up(?) stairs, along allyways and through shopping
centres may need to be properly equipped and trained. But a village
bobby going to investigate Mrs Miggins' missing knickers from her
washing line, with two giggling boys hiding in the ditch opposite!?

Surely a simple Pashley would be more than adequate.
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Old 26-04.-2008, 04:43 AM   #12
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Tom Crispin wrote:

>>>

>> I am staggered that the councillors are moaning about GBP700 for an
>> equipped police bike on that grounds that halfords sell cheaper bikes
>> and questioning whether training for police cyclists might be
>> necessary. Aren't councillors supposed to have professional staff to
>> advise them on topics that they haven't got a clue about. On balance,
>> the reader comments are a bit more encouraging.

>
> I can see the councillors' point.
>
> If cycling is a normal everyday activity, why can't a community
> support officer use an ordinary bike to get around? Does it have to
> be a specially equipped? Do they need special training?
>
> OK - city police, chasing handbag grabbers, shoplifters or drug
> dealers down and up(?) stairs, along allyways and through shopping
> centres may need to be properly equipped and trained. But a village
> bobby going to investigate Mrs Miggins' missing knickers from her
> washing line, with two giggling boys hiding in the ditch opposite!?
>
> Surely a simple Pashley would be more than adequate.


How much are Pashleys nowadays?
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Old 26-04.-2008, 05:23 AM   #13
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:43:47 +0100, Marc
<initial.surname@btintenret.com> wrote:

>Tom Crispin wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> I am staggered that the councillors are moaning about GBP700 for an
>>> equipped police bike on that grounds that halfords sell cheaper bikes
>>> and questioning whether training for police cyclists might be
>>> necessary. Aren't councillors supposed to have professional staff to
>>> advise them on topics that they haven't got a clue about. On balance,
>>> the reader comments are a bit more encouraging.

>>
>> I can see the councillors' point.
>>
>> If cycling is a normal everyday activity, why can't a community
>> support officer use an ordinary bike to get around? Does it have to
>> be a specially equipped? Do they need special training?
>>
>> OK - city police, chasing handbag grabbers, shoplifters or drug
>> dealers down and up(?) stairs, along allyways and through shopping
>> centres may need to be properly equipped and trained. But a village
>> bobby going to investigate Mrs Miggins' missing knickers from her
>> washing line, with two giggling boys hiding in the ditch opposite!?
>>
>> Surely a simple Pashley would be more than adequate.

>
>How much are Pashleys nowadays?


£700
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Old 26-04.-2008, 06:45 AM   #14
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:50:03 +0000, Martin Dann wrote:

> Tim Hall wrote:
>> Seen on youtube:
>>
>> <http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8DxfVcIno>

>
> Lol, If the police caught a mere mortal doing that, that person would
> get a FPN. I have never held onto another vehicle whilst cycling.


Also appears to be riding at night (or at dusk) with no lights (and none
of that fluorescent+reflective clothing that makes you invincible)

peter
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Old 27-04.-2008, 04:44 AM   #15
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On Apr 25, 8:44*am, leand...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On Apr 24, 11:14*pm, Tim Hall <timh...@nospamtoday.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Police cyclists demonstrating the superior training they get.

>
> Taking a slightly different angle, the subject of training for police
> cyclists has come up a few times. The reader comments under this
> article
>
> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co...?nodeId=258119&...
>
> are quite interesting. There's a reference to Cyclecraft, although
> it's not clear if they mean Franklin's book are the subject in
> general.
>
> The only time I've seen a PCSO on a bike in Gloucestershire, he was in
> the gutter in what looked like ordinary uniform, so if he'd been on
> the training, it hadn't worked.
>
> Rob


It' good to see that getting elected to council in the UK reduces IQ
by roughly the same amount as it does in Canada.

I took a Can-Bike course with a couple of police officers who were
decently equipped. Using the standard GBP1=CDN$1 [1]the costs for the
Canadian officers look quite comparable (Good TREK bikes, decent
panniers and normal cycling gear)

John Kane Kingston ON Canada

1. Purchasing power not exchange rate.
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