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05-05.-2008, 11:27 AM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
In article <dkrr14hh3n3629mnhgaogcikc2sost6k1q@4ax.com>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 04 May 2008 17:37:17 +0200, Donald Munro > <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Jack Hollis wrote: > >> I'm afraid that you live in a fantasy world. > > > >Speaking of fantasy worlds: > > > ><http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/6022478bb6cfc21e> > > Thank you DM. I now can add that the US has succeeded in turning the > Sunni Iraqis against Al Qaeda and is now cleaning up the radical Shia > militias. The US has gotten rid if Saddam and is in a good position to > deal a crushing blow to Al Qaeda. Iraq will go down as a major > victory for the US if the next President continues what the Bush > administration has started and I expect Mc Cain to do exactly that. > > > On Thu, 04 May 2006 00:19:22 -0700, Howard Kveck > > <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote: > >I must say that your confidence in George W Bush's ability to "take care of > >Iran" is profoundly disturbing when we look at everything he has "taken care > >of." > > "You've got to be kidding. Bush's policies in the Middle East have > been so successful that that alone will insure his place as one of the > US's great Presidents. > > Bush has eliminated two anti-US governments in Afghanistan and Iraq > and sent Al Qaeda into hiding in the caves in Western Pakistan. Bush > has put together a coalition of 32 nations (26 are still involved) to > fight the war in Iraq. Syrian troops have been eliminated from > Lebanon and a pro US government has been elected. Pakistan has gotten > off the fence and now is clearly part of the solution and not part of > the problem. Same is true for Saudi Arabia. The US has built a major > military base in the safe island nation of Qatar. Bush has developed > strategic military alliances with a number of former Soviet Republics > in the region, including, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, and > Georgia. Libya has given up it's terrorist ambitions and has actually > started to help in the war against terrorism. > > Bush has done a brilliant job and I expect him to take care of the > Iranian situation, one way or the other, before he leaves office" Thanks for posting my original comment that was able to elicit such a wonderfully hilarious response from you. I will always cherish that. -- tanx, Howard Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? He got an icepick That made his ears burn. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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05-05.-2008, 11:27 AM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
In article <42dn14pj0var80f3t642n74gmlkg2plp0o@4ax.com>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com> wrote: > On Thu, 01 May 2008 20:08:25 -0700, Howard Kveck > <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote: > > >> Tell me Diego, who do you think benefits directly from war profits that > >> might control the efforts? > > > > Dick Cheney still gets a salary from Haliburton. It may be deferred, but > > he gets > >it nonetheless. > > Wrong. Check your facts before you talk and you wont look like a > fool. That's a good idea, Jack: check your facts. http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Chene..._last_1011.html Scroll down. -- tanx, Howard Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? He got an icepick That made his ears burn. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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05-05.-2008, 11:27 AM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
In article <39idneG4q4J52oPVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > "Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message > news:a1666a59-075a-442c-9c9c-bce2075c10cc@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > > > > I was a radar technician. I'd have given my eye teeth to fly > > fighters. > > Ahh yes, all of that great insight of a radar technician. As opposed to the great insight of a guy who refueled planes on Okinawa for a few months? > > I've wondered what real fighter pilots think of Bush's > > pathetic record as a "fighter pilot". What kind of "fighter pilot" > > stops flying as Bush did in April of 1972, refuses to take a required > > flight physical and is grounded, as happened in August of 1972? > > About 20% of the pilots reacted like that for reasons you seem unable to > comprehend. But no matter. You've demonstrated that you are unwilling to > think about anything. Was there anything in that graf that was supposed to make sense? -- tanx, Howard Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? He got an icepick That made his ears burn. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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05-05.-2008, 11:32 AM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
In article <hfls145lmvi7863s70md6poll76776nnrk@4ax.com>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:48:33 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> > wrote: > >Without the medical advances coming out of the USA there'd be a great deal > >less health in the world today. > > Yes, most of the major medical advances come out of the US. The mistake that you two make is to assume that the great technological advances that happen in the US are what constitutes "Medical Care" and that they are available to everyone. They aren't. -- tanx, Howard Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? He got an icepick That made his ears burn. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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05-05.-2008, 12:50 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
On May 4, 6:00 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:52:19 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > >Iraq was directly in the middle of everything with a leader capable of just > >about anything. > > Saddam, when he controlled Iraq, was easily the most dangerous man in > the world from the US point of view. As you said, he was capable of > anything and his two sons were of the same cloth. When I read sentences like this, a vivid image flashes into my mind. I see Kim Jong Il slumped on the NK Presidential Sofa, one hand on a bottle of Scotch, another on a mockup of the NK nuclear device that he keeps on the coffee table. He's dropped the remote on the floor as "On the Waterfront" plays - it's a little-known fact that Kim loves Brando movies - on the flat-screen Sony (Kim don't buy no Samsung). He's muttering to himself, over and over again, "I coulda been a contender." > There was no outcome in Iraq that could be worse than leaving Saddam > in power. Luckily, as it looks now, the US just might pull off a > triple victory. Saddam gone, Al Qaeda in Iraq defeated and a pro-West > democratic government in Iraq with a US military presence to insure > stability in the region. > > This is why Bush will go down in history as a great President. Also, I want a pony. Saddam was a nasty person and there was not a limit to his _desires_. But there were limits to his _capability_. This is why saying he was "capable of anything" is chicken feed. Ben |
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05-05.-2008, 02:03 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
On May 4, 4:47*pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 13:57:07 -0700 (PDT), "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" > > <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote: > >Incidentally, we have not dealt a crushing blow to > >Al Qaeda. *Al Qaeda is in Afghanistan and Pakistan > >doing God-knows-what (probably more strikes in > >someplace like Indonesia, an easier target than the > >continental US). > > So far, they seem to be good at making video tapes which makes threats > that never happen. *Bottom line there have been no attacks in the US > and credit for that goes to Bush and his aggressive anti-terrorist > policies. Dumbass - Al Qaeda changed strategy once we invaded Iraq. It's easier for them to attack us there. Duh. thanks, K. Gringioni. |
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05-05.-2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
On May 4, 4:33 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote in message > > news:a1666a59-075a-442c-9c9c-bce2075c10cc@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > I was a radar technician. I'd have given my eye teeth to fly > > fighters. > > Ahh yes, all of that great insight of a radar technician. > > > I've wondered what real fighter pilots think of Bush's > > pathetic record as a "fighter pilot". What kind of "fighter pilot" > > stops flying as Bush did in April of 1972, refuses to take a required > > flight physical and is grounded, as happened in August of 1972? > > About 20% of the pilots reacted like that for reasons you seem unable to > comprehend. But no matter. You've demonstrated that you are unwilling to > think about anything. Whatever. You deadenders can post any bullshit you want. Doesn't matter. It's all over for Bush. He's just smashed Nixon's record for the highest disapproval percentage of any president in history. Where'd you get that 20% figure, out of your ass? That's a lie and an insult to all the real pilots who showed up for duty. -Paul |
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05-05.-2008, 02:46 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
On May 4, 4:47 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 13:57:07 -0700 (PDT), "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" > > <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote: > >Incidentally, we have not dealt a crushing blow to > >Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is in Afghanistan and Pakistan > >doing God-knows-what (probably more strikes in > >someplace like Indonesia, an easier target than the > >continental US). > > So far, they seem to be good at making video tapes which makes threats > that never happen. Bottom line there have been no attacks in the US > and credit for that goes to Bush and his aggressive anti-terrorist > policies. No attacks in the US... now why did you say "in the US"? Oh yeah, that's right, there have been THOUSANDS of attacks and THOUSANDS of Americans killed, just not in the US. More Americans have died in the Iraq fiasco than died on 9/11- way more, due to Bush's incompetence. Post all the propaganda you want. The American people have wised up. You deadenders are an ever-shrinking minority. -Paul |
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05-05.-2008, 03:07 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
On May 4, 6:00 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:52:19 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > >Iraq was directly in the middle of everything with a leader capable of just > >about anything. > > Saddam, when he controlled Iraq, was easily the most dangerous man in > the world from the US point of view. That's absurd. He was a danger to his own people and his neighbors, but never to us. The Iranians are the dangerous ones. They have working reactors, reactors under construction, uranium mines, refined uranium, and centrifuges. Plus they are religious fanatics where Saddam was a secular thug. They also have far better missiles than Saddam had in his hey day. By 2003 Iraq was a bombed out wreck. > > This is why Bush will go down in history as a great President. Losers are never regarded as "great". Bush is going down in history as a monumental screwup and a coward. Just watch the video of him cowering after he was told "the nation is under attack." That's "leadership" Republican-style. You probably identify with him, bet you wet yourself too in a crisis. -Paul |
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05-05.-2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
On May 4, 7:27 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> In article <39idneG4q4J52oPVnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@earthlink.com>, > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote in message > >news:a1666a59-075a-442c-9c9c-bce2075c10cc@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > > > > I was a radar technician. I'd have given my eye teeth to fly > > > fighters. > > > Ahh yes, all of that great insight of a radar technician. > > As opposed to the great insight of a guy who refueled planes on Okinawa for a few > months? Heh heh... you take a lot of tests and based on your scores they offer you some jobs. They offered me jobs in electronic warfare and foreign languages. Needless to say those aren't jobs they offer to recruits with low test scores, and you have to be worth spending a lot of money to train. The dummies got offered shit jobs like bomb loading and refueling. -Paul |
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05-05.-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
On May 4, 8:50 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote: > On May 4, 6:00 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:52:19 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> > > wrote: > > > >Iraq was directly in the middle of everything with a leader capable of just > > >about anything. > > > Saddam, when he controlled Iraq, was easily the most dangerous man in > > the world from the US point of view. As you said, he was capable of > > anything and his two sons were of the same cloth. > > When I read sentences like this, a vivid image > flashes into my mind. > > I see Kim Jong Il slumped on the NK Presidential > Sofa, one hand on a bottle of Scotch, another on > a mockup of the NK nuclear device that he keeps > on the coffee table. He's dropped the remote on > the floor as "On the Waterfront" plays - it's > a little-known fact that Kim loves Brando movies - > on the flat-screen Sony (Kim don't buy no Samsung). > > He's muttering to himself, over and over again, > "I coulda been a contender." > That's hillarious! > > There was no outcome in Iraq that could be worse than leaving Saddam > > in power. Luckily, as it looks now, the US just might pull off a > > triple victory. Saddam gone, Al Qaeda in Iraq defeated and a pro-West > > democratic government in Iraq with a US military presence to insure > > stability in the region. > > > This is why Bush will go down in history as a great President. > > Also, I want a pony. > Heh heh! I guess what he's saying is that Bush's father WON'T go down in history as a great president, since he had an army on Saddam's doorstep and yet left Saddam in power. I think we all know that Bush's father will be regarded as a FAR, FAR better president than his worthless son. -Paul |
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05-05.-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
In article <8bcf1f62-26aa-42cd-bdb6-fde37a637338@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote: > On May 4, 6:00 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...@aol.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:52:19 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> > > wrote: > > > > >Iraq was directly in the middle of everything with a leader capable of just > > >about anything. > > > > Saddam, when he controlled Iraq, was easily the most dangerous man in > > the world from the US point of view. > > That's absurd. He was a danger to his own people and his neighbors, > but never to us. The Iranians are the dangerous ones. They have > working reactors, reactors under construction, uranium mines, refined > uranium, and centrifuges. Plus they are religious fanatics where > Saddam was a secular thug. They also have far better missiles than > Saddam had in his hey day. By 2003 Iraq was a bombed out wreck. I'm not really all that sure that Iran is a serious threat to anyone. Yeah, their president is a nutcase, but he would likely not have been elected if Bush hadn't made such a big deal about telling the Iranian people to elect a different bunch back in '05. For another thing, he doesn't control the military, so he can't make them attack anyone. We know they are working on atomic power but there is no serious proof that they're working on weapons. I think that if they did develop atomic weapons, it would be used as a deterrent, rather than as offensive weapons. One problem with any of that is that the Bush admin. considers countries like Iran developing the capability to deter attacks is the same as an offensive attack on the US (Israel certainly subscribes to this theory too). -- tanx, Howard Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? He got an icepick That made his ears burn. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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05-05.-2008, 07:00 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
Jack Hollis wrote:
> You obviously have zero unredstanding of what's going on in Iraq. A very Kunichian response. Is this evidence that bots can replicate like virii ? |
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05-05.-2008, 07:02 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>> Don't be a partisan ideologue. It will make you stupid. This >> administration's conduct has been especially egregious. Michael Press wrote: > Unnecessary to qualify egregious. > egregious: Surpassing; extraordinary; distinguished (in a bad sense); Perhaps justified in this case. |
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05-05.-2008, 08:18 PM
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Re: Mission accomplished +5
Jack Hollis wrote:
> Saddam gone, Al Qaeda in Iraq defeated and a pro-West democratic > government in Iraq with a US military presence to insure stability in the > region. Al Qaeda in Iraq is a US creation in the first place, it would never have existed without an invasion of Iraq, and as the Shia outnumber the Sunni's 3 to 1 so Al Qaeda in Iraq(tm) was always doomed, the only difference is the US did all the work for the Shia. The "pro-west" government leader has been more than friendly with Iran despite US pressure on him to be critical of Ahmadinejad. And thats not even counting the fact that it is a coalition government with several sectarian Shia parties involved. In the end the only thing that unites Iraq is hatred of the US: <http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-only-one-thing-unites-iraq-hatred-of-the-us-764307.html> "A detailed opinion poll carried out by ABC News, BBC and NTV of Japan in August found that 57 percent of Iraqis believe that attacks on US forces are acceptable." And that percentage is likely to rise when hospitals and ambulances get hit by US helicopters. Oh yes and the US military presence "insuring stability" is going to cost trillions of dollars, always a good idea when you have a record deficit and an economy in recession. A few tax cuts for fat billionaires and oil companies might solve the problem though. |
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