Mission accomplished +5

Paul G.

On May 1, 5:12 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 4:06 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
> > Instead they diverted assets to the totally
> > unnecessary ______.
>
> Dumbassbag,
>
> That's guvmint for ya.

That's guvmint "Republican't style" for ya.

The Democrat-controlled govt whipped the Germans and Japanese in less
than 4 yrs in WWII.
-Paul

Tom Kunich

"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message
news:498a0b19-d3b2-4c0e-9ed3-62ec480537d4@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 1, 5:12 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>> On May 1, 4:06 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Instead they diverted assets to the totally
>> > unnecessary ______.
>>
>> Dumbassbag,
>>
>> That's guvmint for ya.
>
> That's guvmint "Republican't style" for ya.
>
> The Democrat-controlled govt whipped the Germans and Japanese in less
> than 4 yrs in WWII.

I hate to point this out but the Liberals who control the Democrat party now
kicked out "those kind" of Democrats in the 60's. They all moved over to the
Republican Party and those are the same people you're now criticizing.

diego

Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1127d319-1b9c-4f97-bd5b-b390fe2833e9@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/temp/1may08.png
>
> Why don't you make one of those charts for the French?

How about one for those who benefit directly from war profits?

Kurgan Gringioni

On May 1, 3:05*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3edd5769-c726-488d-a5d4-743d7a33a135@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > The big mistakes were the grand strategic/political decisions. The de-
> > Baathification of Iraq and the removal of the power structure that
> > kept the various factions in Iraq in check. The decision to abandon
> > containment.
>
> In other words - we should have retained the minority power structure that
> was holding everything else in check by murder and force of arms.



Jackass -


That is correct.

Why? Because it's the way things are done in the Middle East. For
instance Kuwait, whose regime we restored to power in the 1991 Gulf
War, is a monarchy as is our "ally" Saudi Arabia.

A monarchy, by definition, gives its power to a very tiny minority of
the population. A family. The Baathists, by contrast, made up 20% of
the population of Iraq. That's one of the very basic cultural
subtleties of which the neocons and ignoramouses like yourself are
unaware.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Paul G.

On May 1, 4:40 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5aac76e6-8080-4420-b730-0317c49a4fa5@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > All that was needed to prevent this mess from ever happening was
> > common sense and the right priorities. The first priorities should
> > have been taking out bin Laden and wiping out Al-Qaeda, then
> > stabilizing Afghanistan.
>
> Sorry but you're wrong. While bin Laden was the face of Al-Qaeda he isn't
> the heart. That's the violent heart of extremist Islam who need an enemy to
> feel holy.
>

Sorry, but I'm right. I wipe my ass with stuff that's smarter than
you are.

> > Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and presented no threat to us.
>
> Tell me, what exactly do you know about it? Do you suppose that our leaders
> simply flipped a coin and went to war? Or maybe they had a great deal more
> intelligence than you or I have and knew something that we don't know and
> probably will never know?
>

Like I said, I wipe my ass with stuff that's smarter than you are. Get
a clue. The Republican'ts have milked this for years. Where do you
think those hundreds of billions of dollars went? And have you
noticed that Bush's pals in the oil industry have had record profits
thru this? Take a look at a graph of historic oil prices. Every major
jump in the price of oil has been due to a war in the mideast. The
longer this drags on, the more money they make. Think they haven't
figured that out? Oh wait. You're totally clueless. That's WAY over
your head.
-Paul

Tom Kunich

"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message
news:729e64e3-fe2a-4041-9dcc-2d6185a0daf9@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>
> The Republican'ts have milked this for years.

Absolutely, but the fact remains that because of stupid asses such as
yourself we find ourselves with a choice between Obama/Clinton and McCain -
or more accurately between stupid/crooked or inadequate.

> Where do you think those hundreds of billions of dollars went?

What billions of dollars? I note that those being led about by the nose
seldom speak or write in complete thoughts. I suppose that's because they
don't have any.

> And have you noticed that Bush's pals in the oil industry have had
> record profits thru this?

Maybe you never learned arithmatic in school. The oil companies make about
7% "profit" after their costs to buy the oil and then to refine it. That
hasn't changed in 40 years. If the cost of oil goes up because the supply is
being purposely limited by, say, laws that refuse oil drilling in coastal
waters, in Anwar and the like, then don't say that this is due to the oil
companies. Or if you refuse oil companies the right to build refineries
anywhere in the continental USA and don't allow sufficient port facilities
to dock and unload supertankers it shouldn't come as a surprise that more
and more middlemen are making more and more profits from a hard to come by
highly desired product.

By the way, the oil companies have to use a significant portion of that
"profit" to find ever increasing sources of oil and refined byproducts due
to those laws. And finding those sources becomes increasingly difficult and
expensive over time.

So when dumb asses such as yourself claim that making a smaller percentage
from your increasing investment is making "record profits" you ought to
understand just what you look like.

Tom Kunich

"diego" <diego@ride.com> wrote in message
news:-5KdnRZFofNt-IfVnZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> "Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127d319-1b9c-4f97-bd5b-b390fe2833e9@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>> http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/temp/1may08.png
>>
>> Why don't you make one of those charts for the French?
>
> How about one for those who benefit directly from war profits?

Tell me Diego, who do you think benefits directly from war profits that
might control the efforts?

Paul G.

On May 1, 5:59 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 3:05 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:3edd5769-c726-488d-a5d4-743d7a33a135@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > The big mistakes were the grand strategic/political decisions. The de-
> > > Baathification of Iraq and the removal of the power structure that
> > > kept the various factions in Iraq in check. The decision to abandon
> > > containment.
>
> > In other words - we should have retained the minority power structure that
> > was holding everything else in check by murder and force of arms.
>
> Jackass -
>
> That is correct.
>
> Why? Because it's the way things are done in the Middle East. For
> instance Kuwait, whose regime we restored to power in the 1991 Gulf
> War, is a monarchy as is our "ally" Saudi Arabia.
>
> A monarchy, by definition, gives its power to a very tiny minority of
> the population. A family. The Baathists, by contrast, made up 20% of
> the population of Iraq. That's one of the very basic cultural
> subtleties of which the neocons and ignoramouses like yourself are
> unaware.
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

Right. The Baathists were a threat to the Iraqi people. They were no
longer a threat to their neighbors or us, for the simple reason that
we had planes flying over Iraq every day, able to drop a bomb anywhere
at any time. They were also greedy thugs, a totally different animal
from the religious fanatics who attacked us. Now our glorious leader
has taken them out and put the religious fanatics in charge. Nice
going.
-Paul

Paul G.

On May 1, 5:48 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote in message
>
> news:498a0b19-d3b2-4c0e-9ed3-62ec480537d4@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 1, 5:12 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
> >> On May 1, 4:06 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Instead they diverted assets to the totally
> >> > unnecessary ______.
>
> >> Dumbassbag,
>
> >> That's guvmint for ya.
>
> > That's guvmint "Republican't style" for ya.
>
> > The Democrat-controlled govt whipped the Germans and Japanese in less
> > than 4 yrs in WWII.
>
> I hate to point this out but the Liberals who control the Democrat party now
> kicked out "those kind" of Democrats in the 60's. They all moved over to the
> Republican Party and those are the same people you're now criticizing.

What a load of bullshit.
-Paul

rjk3@my-deja.com

On May 1, 11:19 am, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 7:50 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
>
> <pe...@vecchios.com> wrote:
> > On May 1, 4:18 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 1 May 2008 00:11:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Chung
>
> > > <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/temp/1may08.png
>
> > > Well, it looks like the rate of death is tapering off, which is
> > > evidence the surge is working. We should respect the judgement of the
> > > commanders on the ground. The next sixth months will be critical.
>
> > If the potential commanders on the ground had been listened to(if we
> > are going in, go big), this mess would have been over with 5 years ago.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Not if they were going to de-Baathify the country. Sending in more
> troops would not have solved the long term problem of the power vacuum
> created by removing the government.
>
> The only way to get it over w/ fast would've been to depose Saddam,
> leave the power structure in place and appoint a more transparent head
> of state.
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

It would have been a hell of a lot cheaper.

William Asher

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in
news:gr2dnefk1Zd9zofVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink.com:

>
> However, what bothers me most about modern war is that those who wish
> to win must be willing to work at winning the longest so that those
> who oppose them finally give up.
>

You know, if you're looking for work and believe in a cause, why not
volunteer to work for that cause?

--
Bill Asher

Howard Kveck

In article <aefecbfd-d615-440b-b0b7-7ed8bb4fff5f@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote:

> On May 1, 5:48 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:498a0b19-d3b2-4c0e-9ed3-62ec480537d4@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > On May 1, 5:12 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
> > >> On May 1, 4:06 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > Instead they diverted assets to the totally
> > >> > unnecessary ______.
> >
> > >> Dumbassbag,
> >
> > >> That's guvmint for ya.
> >
> > > That's guvmint "Republican't style" for ya.
> >
> > > The Democrat-controlled govt whipped the Germans and Japanese in less
> > > than 4 yrs in WWII.
> >
> > I hate to point this out but the Liberals who control the Democrat party now
> > kicked out "those kind" of Democrats in the 60's. They all moved over to the
> > Republican Party and those are the same people you're now criticizing.
>
> What a load of bullshit.
> -Paul

Indeed. The Dems who left to become Republicans were the ones who wanted to
continue the policies of racism. Guys like Strom Thurmond. It's retarded (yeah, I
know - it's Kunich, but it still needs to be said) to try to claim that the Democrats
have moved to the left - the Republicans in the high levels of Washington power have
moved to the right very hard (and claimed they haven't moved - Ha!)

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck

In article <-PSdnWgWAoSo8IfVnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> "diego" <diego@ride.com> wrote in message
> news:-5KdnRZFofNt-IfVnZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> "Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127d319-1b9c-4f97-bd5b-b390fe2833e9@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> >>> http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/temp/1may08.png
> >>
> >> Why don't you make one of those charts for the French?
> >
> > How about one for those who benefit directly from war profits?
>
> Tell me Diego, who do you think benefits directly from war profits that
> might control the efforts?

Dick Cheney still gets a salary from Haliburton. It may be deferred, but he gets
it nonetheless.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck

In article <nfOdnUwXQ6ha3IfVnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d@comcast.com>,
Fred Fredburger <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.Huh> wrote:

> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 May 2008 00:11:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Chung
> > <rechung@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/temp/1may08.png
> >
> > Well, it looks like the rate of death is tapering off, which is
> > evidence the surge is working. We should respect the judgement of the
> > commanders on the ground. The next sixth months will be critical.
> >
> >
>
> It's Neocon John, coming soon to a toy store near you.

In Brookings Institution or Hoover Institution models.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?