Mission accomplished +5

Tom Kunich

"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message
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> I spent 4 years in the service and I don't advocate that other people
> spend years fighting an unwinnable war either.

What do you know about the war? I mean other than the death count?

> But it's not that this war is "unwinnable", it's that it was
> unnecessary and counter productive.

And of course from your position of having all the available knowledge you
can make proclaimations like that all day long.

That's what I like about you experts. I can always rely on your knowledge.

Tom Kunich

"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message
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> Dumberassbag- when did you ever say anything that made any sense?

Why don't you repeat what you wrote to me? That somehow the fact that the
oil companies making 7% profit (before paying for new development) is bad.

SLAVE of THE STATE

On May 2, 11:24*am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:56 am, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 1, 5:46 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 1, 5:12 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 1, 4:06 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Instead they diverted assets to the totally
> > > > > unnecessary ______.
>
> > > > Dumbassbag,
>
> > > > That's guvmint for ya.
>
> > > That's guvmint "Republican't style" for ya.
>
> > Dumbassbag,
>
> > It is any guvmint.
>
> > > The *Democrat-controlled govt whipped the Germans and Japanese in less
> > > than 4 yrs in WWII.
>
> > When did I ever say democrats weren't as big or worse warmongers than
> > republicans? *War is the health of The State, and democrats know that
> > as well as republicans. *Democrats only dislike the wars they are not
> > in power for.
>
> Dumberassbag- when did you ever say anything that made any sense?

Warmonger Dumbassbag,

This is for sheeple like you:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp
Göring Interview, Gustave M. Gilbert, Nuremberg Diary, pp. 278–79
'We got around to the subject of war again and I [Gilbert] said that,
contrary to his [Göring's] attitude, I did not think that the common
people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and
destruction.'--GG

HG> "Why, of course, the people don't want war. [Göring shrugged.] Why
would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the
best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one
piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia
nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a
Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

GG> "There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some say
in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United
States only Congress can declare war."

HG> "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people
can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All
you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
It works the same way in any country.

> You're the king of non sequiturs. Go back to ranting and raving about
> pigs, but just for fun why don't you look up deflation first.

Oh, I did. I decided fears about sticky wages and menu costs are
bullshit.

William Asher

Tom Kunich wrote:

> "William Asher" <gcnp58@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A9275F1FFFABFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4...
>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>> Tell me Asher, did you spend any time in the service?
>>
>> No,
>
> It's no wonder you're such an expert.
>

In your service experience in the USAF, were you ever in any actual ground
combat or did you just learn to salute?

--
Bill Asher

Donald Munro

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp Göring Interview, Gustave M.

> HG> "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can
> always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you
> have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists
> for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the
> same way in any country.

That sounds kind of familiar. Perhaps he got reincarnated as Cheney.

Bill C

On May 2, 4:45*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "William Asher" <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns9A9275F1FFFABFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4...
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> > Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> >> Tell me Asher, did you spend any time in the service?
>
> > No,
>
> It's no wonder you're such an expert.

http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/lyrics/wheels.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5gMeXz2YMw
http://music.carouselstores.com/
http://www.smithsonianglobalsound.o...px?itemid=21028
Bill C

Paul G.

On May 2, 2:08 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
> > "William Asher" <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns9A9275F1FFFABFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4...
> >> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> >>> Tell me Asher, did you spend any time in the service?
>
> >> No,
>
> > It's no wonder you're such an expert.
>
> In your service experience in the USAF, were you ever in any actual ground
> combat or did you just learn to salute?
>
> --
> Bill Asher

He learned how to shine his boots and fold his underwear- and do what
he was told. Been there, done that. People in the military may know
how to do what they were trained to do- shine shoes, clean and operate
weapon systems, etc but the vast majority of them know little of
history or world events, especially now that there is no draft.
-Paul

Paul G.

On May 2, 2:14 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
>
> >http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.aspGöring Interview, Gustave M.
> > HG> "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can
> > always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you
> > have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists
> > for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the
> > same way in any country.
>
> That sounds kind of familiar. Perhaps he got reincarnated as Cheney.

Not just Cheney- Rice, Rumsfeld and Bush all used the same technique.
Göring was right, and we've all seen plenty of examples of the
gullibility of the average American. Now here's a recent example from
what's-his-name- Kuntitch- about the Iraq war:

"Tell me, what exactly do you know about it? Do you suppose that our
leaders simply flipped a coin and went to war? Or maybe they had a
great deal more intelligence than you or I have and knew something
that we don't know and probably will never know?"

Ah yes, the wisdom of our glorious leaders. Like Göring said "It
works the same way in any country."
-Paul

John Forrest Tomlinson

Thank everyone who supported Bush in the 2004 elections. Thank them
for it all. It was obvious by then. So they're culpable. If anyone
sees Danny Callen or Mark Hickey, thank him for this mess.

alanstew@sbcglobal.net

On May 2, 11:41*am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Maybe Robert could make up a chart and send it
> to the French. *Do we have their address anymore?

France, that's the place where American cyclists go
to get framed for banned substances after they win the TdF.

Oh sorry, didn't mean to interject something about bike racing
here on 'Politics Today'.

ABS

Tom Kunich

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote in message
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> Thank everyone who supported Bush in the 2004 elections. Thank them
> for it all. It was obvious by then. So they're culpable. If anyone
> sees Danny Callen or Mark Hickey, thank him for this mess.

There you go - John Tomlinson - the person who believes that John Kerry
would have been a better President. The man who had been given a
dishonorable discharge and lied to the American people about where he was
and what he saw.

Bill C

On May 2, 6:08*pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> Thank everyone who supported Bush in the 2004 elections. *Thank them
> for it all. *It was obvious by then. *So they're culpable. *If anyone
> sees Danny Callen or Mark Hickey, thank him for this mess.

Don't forget to thank the DNC folks for giving us totally shitty
options too. Once again we've got a race with noone worth a shit in it
from both parties. How the hell they could've found someone to
actually lose to Bush at that point was pure genius.
Bill C

Paul G.

On May 2, 1:58 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>
> Warmonger Dumbassbag,
>
> This is for sheeple like you:
>

Sheeple! I like it. And I've used that Goering quote myself, along
with "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel". -Samuel Johnson
April 7, 1775

But again- dumberassbag- when did you ever say anything that made any
sense?
-Paul

Fred Fredburger

Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message
> news:ea96c2e9-e120-4c0f-9979-a0f9d538b8c8@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> I spent 4 years in the service and I don't advocate that other people
>> spend years fighting an unwinnable war either.
>
> What do you know about the war? I mean other than the death count?
>
>> But it's not that this war is "unwinnable", it's that it was
>> unnecessary and counter productive.
>
> And of course from your position of having all the available knowledge
> you can make proclaimations like that all day long.
>
> That's what I like about you experts. I can always rely on your knowledge.
>

What a wishy-washy, chickenshit flip flopper.

First, military service is what entitles you to an opinion, then it's not.

Whatever's convenient, right Tom? Not like you've got any ethics or
morality. Typical neo-con.