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Old 08-05.-2008, 04:45 AM   #31
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On May 7, 8:47*am, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 7:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:


> > Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?

>
> Hmmm. Well, in matters like these I try to start with little steps.
> Pointing out how foolish you are is almost always a reasonable
> beginning.


If it cuts into your afternoon training rides, I'd say you have
misplaced priorities.
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Old 08-05.-2008, 04:46 AM   #32
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Donald Munro wrote:

> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
>>> destroy or murder in order to get your way?

>
> I didn't realize climate scientists received CIA training.


The way to think about it is that if you fail the climate scientist
subterfuge, intrigue, and mayhem aptitude test the CIA will take you. Once
you enroll in climate scientist training, you either graduate, or are never
heard from again. Sort of like assassin school in Ankh-Morpork, only
without the training in culture and dancing.

> William Asher wrote:
>> Can we also tap their women?

>
> Kunich thinks we're all gay so he isn't worried about that (although
> he might be worried if he knew you to be a Jedi knight dabbling in the
> back side of the Force).


It kind of makes you wonder what a Jedi page thinks of their chosen
profession as their master dabbles in the back side with force. Or not.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 04:50 AM   #33
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Robert Chung wrote:

> On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > One of my governor's best lines:

>>
>> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
>> > Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
>> > wind in your hair.
>> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
>> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
>> > the lamentations of the women.

>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

>
> Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected:
> "...to hear the lamentation of de vimmen."
>


It is a cinema classic, regardless of the trivial details. Right up there
with:

Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
Clerk: Hey, just what you see pal.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 05:06 AM   #34
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On May 7, 12:52*am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> p.s. *If anyone gives a crap, ...


At this point, the most important thing is not the correctness of the
physical science, but of the social science. The uncertainty is
vanishing when it comes to the question of whether or not sufficient
(and "important") people give a crap about the more important
questions raised by social science and the implications.

Is there a list to sign for "scientists unconcerned about AGW?"

How about a list for "scientists concerned about retards with
political power?"

"I think a major reason why intellectuals tend to move towards
collectivism is that the collectivist answer is a simple one. If
there’s something wrong, pass a law and do something about it." --
Milton Friedman

"The great differences between the characteristic methods of the
physical sciences and those of the social sciences explain why the
natural scientist who turns to the work of the professional students
of social phenomena so often feels that he has got among a company of
people who habitually commit all the mortal sins which he is most
careful to avoid, and that a science of society conforming to his
standards does not yet exist." -- Hayek, _The Counter-Revolution of
Science, Studies on the Abuse of Reason_

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Old 08-05.-2008, 05:12 AM   #35
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"SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com> wrote in message
news:96a59e86-8221-4732-9677-c541b6297d0a@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> "I think a major reason why intellectuals tend to move towards
> collectivism is that the collectivist answer is a simple one. If
> there's something wrong, pass a law and do something about it." --
> Milton Friedman


Let's not forget that those here who think of themselves as "Liberals" are
more than willing to support absolutely fascist techniques to get their way.

On TV, Al Gore and Ted Turner have stated that the whole world is going to
die unless we are willing to murder more than half of them. And they
advocate methods of that murder.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 05:22 AM   #36
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Dans le message de news:Xns9A9775BC23546FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> Sandy wrote:
>
>> EDF - Électricité de France ???

>
> Environmental Defense Fund.


Subsidiary?


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Old 08-05.-2008, 05:57 AM   #37
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William Asher wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
>
>> On May 7, 7:50 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:79e117f9-8f78-4c19-b440-3c2a7859c903@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com.
>>> ..
>>>
>>>> On May 6, 6:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>>> Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published
>>>>> by 532 individual scientists from 325 separate research
>>>>> institutions in 38 different countries ... and counting!
>>>> NO, according to some of those 500+ scientists:
>>>> http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scien...ed-doubts-about
>>>> ...
>>> Well then Robert - what are you doing to save the earth?

>> Hmmm. Well, in matters like these I try to start with little steps.
>> Pointing out how foolish you are is almost always a reasonable
>> beginning.
>>

>
> Not according to Schwartz. It's more like donating money to the EDF, which
> only guarantees you'll be asked to donate more money to the EDF.
>



He's right. But they all are.

Steve

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Old 08-05.-2008, 06:06 AM   #38
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On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > On May 7, 11:09 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Tom Kunich wrote:

>
> >> > How many people are you willing to falsely discredit, financially
> >> > destroy or murder in order to get your way?

>
> >> Can we also tap their women?

>
> > One of my governor's best lines:

>
> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
> > Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
> > wind in your hair.
> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
> > the lamentations of the women.

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI
>
> --
> Bill Asher


This is why I'm a liberal. That doesn't sound all that fun to me. No,
for me the best in life is a long bike ride on a cold day, followed by
drinking a cold Dos Equis beer while taking a hot shower, a "nap",
followed by a nap, maybe another "nap", etc... Lamentations are not
what I want to hear from my women. That would Interfere with my
napping, not to mention my "napping".
-Paul
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Old 08-05.-2008, 06:11 AM   #39
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On May 7, 11:50 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >> > One of my governor's best lines:

>
> >> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
> >> > Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the
> >> > wind in your hair.
> >> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
> >> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear
> >> > the lamentations of the women.

>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

>
> > Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected:
> > "...to hear the lamentation of de vimmen."

>
> It is a cinema classic, regardless of the trivial details. Right up there
> with:
>
> Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
> Clerk: Hey, just what you see pal.
>
> --
> Bill Asher


A 40 watt pulse rifle??! That's ridiculous. I use a 100 watt pulse
rifle just to shoot starlings in my cherry trees. Who writes this
crap?
-Paul
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Old 08-05.-2008, 06:28 AM   #40
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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

> On May 7, 12:52*am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> p.s. *If anyone gives a crap, ...

>
> At this point, the most important thing is not the correctness of the
> physical science, but of the social science. The uncertainty is
> vanishing when it comes to the question of whether or not sufficient
> (and "important") people give a crap about the more important
> questions raised by social science and the implications.


I've never seen "correctness" used as an adjective describing "social
science" before. Interesting concept. I guess the second quote from Salma
Hyek explains that.

The social and economic science of climate change is really very simple, to
avoid making any sacrifices during our lifetimes, most of us are betting
that the really bad effects will occur after we are dead.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 06:37 AM   #41
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Paul G. wrote:

> On May 7, 11:50 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Robert Chung wrote:
>> > On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>
>> >> > One of my governor's best lines:

>>
>> >> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in
>> >> > life? Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your
>> >> > wrist, and the wind in your hair.
>> >> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
>> >> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to
>> >> > hear the lamentations of the women.

>>
>> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

>>
>> > Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected:
>> > "...to hear the lamentation of de vimmen."

>>
>> It is a cinema classic, regardless of the trivial details. Right up
>> there with:
>>
>> Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
>> Clerk: Hey, just what you see pal.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Asher

>
> A 40 watt pulse rifle??! That's ridiculous. I use a 100 watt pulse
> rifle just to shoot starlings in my cherry trees. Who writes this
> crap?
> -Paul


You're a liberal, nobody expects you to know anything about weaponry so
it's not surprising you are completely overgunned. Anyway, those were
purple martins, not starlings. Nice going.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 06:42 AM   #42
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On May 7, 1:28 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> The social and economic science of climate change is really very simple, to
> avoid making any sacrifices during our lifetimes, most of us are betting
> that the really bad effects will occur after we are dead.
>


Well said. I've been musing- when did "conservative" become synonymous
with "wasteful" and "reckless"? They used to be antonyms. Not any
more...
-Paul
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Old 08-05.-2008, 07:13 AM   #43
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Paul G. wrote:
>> A 40 watt pulse rifle??! That's ridiculous. I use a 100 watt pulse
>> rifle just to shoot starlings in my cherry trees. Who writes this crap?
>> -Paul


William Asher wrote:
> You're a liberal, nobody expects you to know anything about weaponry so
> it's not surprising you are completely overgunned. Anyway, those were
> purple martins, not starlings. Nice going.


There's another liberal around here who'd like to borrow the pulse rifle
to shoot some pesky peace doves.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 07:40 AM   #44
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On May 7, 1:37 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> > On May 7, 11:50 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Robert Chung wrote:
> >> > On May 7, 11:33 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >> >> > One of my governor's best lines:

>
> >> >> > Mongol General: We won again! This is good, but what is best in
> >> >> > life? Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your
> >> >> > wrist, and the wind in your hair.
> >> >> > Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
> >> >> > Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to
> >> >> > hear the lamentations of the women.

>
> >> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

>
> >> > Ah. Thanks. I stand corrected:
> >> > "...to hear the lamentation of de vimmen."

>
> >> It is a cinema classic, regardless of the trivial details. Right up
> >> there with:

>
> >> Terminator: Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
> >> Clerk: Hey, just what you see pal.

>
> >> --
> >> Bill Asher

>
> > A 40 watt pulse rifle??! That's ridiculous. I use a 100 watt pulse
> > rifle just to shoot starlings in my cherry trees. Who writes this
> > crap?
> > -Paul

>
> You're a liberal, nobody expects you to know anything about weaponry so
> it's not surprising you are completely overgunned. Anyway, those were
> purple martins, not starlings. Nice going.
>
> --
> Bill Asher


Over gunned... no way! Look at it like this: we have a president
who's the equivalent of a 25 watt bulb. Four times that is just
enough to take out a starling without upsetting the neighbors.
-Paul
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Old 08-05.-2008, 09:41 AM   #45
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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> On May 7, 12:52 am, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> p.s. If anyone gives a crap, ...

>
> At this point, the most important thing is not the correctness of the
> physical science, but of the social science. The uncertainty is
> vanishing when it comes to the question of whether or not sufficient
> (and "important") people give a crap about the more important
> questions raised by social science and the implications.
>
> Is there a list to sign for "scientists unconcerned about AGW?"
>
> How about a list for "scientists concerned about retards with
> political power?"
>


There appear to be only 2 prevalent views on this topic:

1. Global warming is occurring AND it'll be disastrous AND it's caused
by humans AND it's caused by CO2 from burning fossil fuels AND the
government ought to do something.

2. Global warming is not occurring AND it'll be good for some of us AND
humans cause no harm to the environment AND humans aren't increasing the
amount of CO2 in the atmosphere AND government ought to butt out.

Retards without political power are annoying too.


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