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Here's the America You Want

 
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Old 08-05.-2008, 08:38 AM   #1
Tom Kunich
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Old 08-05.-2008, 09:23 AM   #2
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On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp


http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
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Old 08-05.-2008, 09:39 AM   #3
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"Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp

>
> http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html


It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
opinion of HISTORIANS!

I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 09:43 AM   #4
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On May 7, 8:39*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d665cbf0-ce2b-48c7-b1fe-d9ec58d208ca@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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> > On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp

>
> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

>
> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> opinion of HISTORIANS!
>
> I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.


What does that have to do with cycling?

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Old 08-05.-2008, 09:58 AM   #5
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On May 7, 5:39 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

>
> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> opinion of HISTORIANS!


Let's see: climate scientists aren't to be believed about climate
science, historians aren't to be believed about history, professors of
health policy aren't to be believed about health policy, evolutionary
biologists aren't to be believed about evolution, and economists
aren't to be believed about the economy.
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Old 08-05.-2008, 10:06 AM   #6
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"Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 7, 5:39 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
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>> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

>>
>> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
>> opinion of HISTORIANS!

>
> Let's see: climate scientists aren't to be believed about climate
> science, historians aren't to be believed about history, professors of
> health policy aren't to be believed about health policy, evolutionary
> biologists aren't to be believed about evolution, and economists
> aren't to be believed about the economy.


Psst - MOST "climate scientists" deny "global warming". Most of that list of
scientists who AGREE with global warming do not have anything to do with
climate or atmospheric science.


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Old 08-05.-2008, 11:07 AM   #7
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"Andre" <ANDREJANSSENS1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What does that have to do with cycling?


Andre, my apologies and I'll try to just post on cycling for now.

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Old 08-05.-2008, 08:34 PM   #8
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On May 7, 8:39*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d665cbf0-ce2b-48c7-b1fe-d9ec58d208ca@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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> > On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp

>
> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

>
> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> opinion of HISTORIANS!
>
> I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.


Sorry Tom, I don't see a Truman like reversal of opinion on this one.
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Old 08-05.-2008, 08:42 PM   #9
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Tom Kunich wrote:
>> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
>> opinion of HISTORIANS!


Robert Chung wrote:
> Let's see: climate scientists aren't to be believed about climate science,
> historians aren't to be believed about history, professors of health
> policy aren't to be believed about health policy, evolutionary biologists
> aren't to be believed about evolution, and economists aren't to be
> believed about the economy.


What about sexoligists ?

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Old 09-05.-2008, 12:03 PM   #10
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On 5/7/08 4:38 PM, in article
zrCdnYIHU9kUoL_VnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp
>


I have one of these BofA's around the corner here in the hood where I live.
It is a fricken NIGHTMARE ZOO at that place! Like a damn busy starbucks! No
other bank around here is like them in terms of the crowds. The cars coming
in and out of this place is like the DMV!! They have 3 ATMs out front that
have a dozen people in line all the time!

The only thing around here that is worse?? The damn Albertsons, they take
WIC, food stamps and all other freebie welfare handouts.

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Old 09-05.-2008, 01:53 PM   #11
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On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp


It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?
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Old 09-05.-2008, 10:37 PM   #12
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On May 8, 11:03*pm, ST <n...@no.com> wrote:

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> The only thing around here that is worse?? The damn Albertsons, they take
> WIC, food stamps and all other freebie welfare handouts.


I think you need to clarify this a wee bit...
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Old 10-05.-2008, 01:43 AM   #13
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On May 8, 4:34*am, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On May 7, 8:39*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:d665cbf0-ce2b-48c7-b1fe-d9ec58d208ca@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

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> > > On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp

>
> > >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

>
> > It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> > opinion of HISTORIANS!

>
> > I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.

>
> Sorry Tom, I don't see a Truman like reversal of opinion on this one.


"Even a blind pig can occasionally root up a turnip." -- Silence
Dogood

Even a poor quality historian can occasionally identify a bad
prezident.

Root around hnn. You'll find some funny looking turnips.


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Old 10-05.-2008, 08:43 AM   #14
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On May 8, 10:53*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp

>
> It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?


I'm generally speaking in support of free enterprise, but there are
times when common sense and/or govt. restrictions may be in order.
For example, I'm pretty sure I'm solidly against drug dealing, even if
in the strictest sense it is free enterprise. On a similar note, I'm
not sure I'm in support of corporations conducting enterprises that at
worst encourage, or at the least mitigate the hardships of, illegal
immigration.

On another note, where's the liberal outcry over the userous interest
rates that are being charged to these poor, disadvantaged people who
have no where else to turn for credit?
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Old 10-05.-2008, 09:55 AM   #15
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On May 9, 4:43*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 10:53*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

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> > >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immi...nkofamerica.asp

>
> > It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?


At a glance, it sounds "free" to the extent it fits within the
existing legal paradigm. What if the paradigm changes?

Free banking does not exist in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_banking

In the article, note the so-called Free Banking Era in the US was not
wholesale free banking. Control was shifted to the states.
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