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15-05.-2008, 03:39 AM
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Re: recommend a pedal for a clipless noob
On Sun, 11 May 2008 18:26:03 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:
> based on > the three different pairs of Shimano shoes that I tried on at REI, they > just wouldn't have fit me. Too narrow in the front, and there was > something hard in there that was cramping my pinkie toe, while my heel was > slopping all around in the back. I figured that having to be careful > about knocking the mud out was better than fighting with shoes that just > don't fit my odd-shaped feet. You're not alone -- I've found the same thing with all the Shimano shoes I've tried, and heard the same complaints from others. I didn't care because they were good enough for me for around town. For longer rides I'd use my Sidis (which are terrible for walking around in). Matt O. |
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15-05.-2008, 03:47 AM
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Re: recommend a pedal for a clipless noob
On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:21:16 -0700, Michael Press wrote:
> In article > <1171e645-bcea-4de3-9fba-19edd278e087@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, > Art Harris <n2ah@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Nate Nagel wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I'm thinking about making the leap to clipless (I've got some fresh >> > rat trap scars on the back of my leg, because I don't have either good >> > pedals or good shoes at the moment) but am not sure what I should try >> > first. >> > >> > Most people are telling me to go SPD, but the guy at the LBS closest >> > to my house tells me I really want Looks for more float (makes sense.) >> > * >> > >> > >> I would recomment dual-sided SPD pedals such as the PD-M520. It has >> enough float > > The PD-M520 is good. I run its more expensive sibling PD-M540, for no > particular reason. > Drooling for the XTR PD-M970. > > First pedal to earn XTR status > > Our lightest MTB SPD pedal ever > > Flourine [sic] coated binding claws allow easy entry and release > >> I started out with Look pedals in the early '90s when they were the only >> think around, and used them untill a few years ago. If you do any amount >> of walking, an SPD pedal with a recessed cleat is a better choice. The >> Look pedals make you walk like a duck, and the plastic cleats wear >> quickly and tend to slip when you put a foot down. >> >> As for a shoe, I'd recommend the Shimano RT-51 because it has a good >> stiff sole which will eliminate "hot spots" due to cleat pressure on >> your foot. >> >> See: >> http://bike.shimano.com/publish/con...T51.-type-.html > > I am shopping around for some RT-51's, because I have waffle stompers > and want to go with the smooth soles. I don't know what the other differences might be, but the new one is too garish, with the shiny silver color and the brand name too prominent. The older one was a more subdued black and gray that didn't scream "bike shoe" if you were wearing it around town. If you find the RT50s on sale somewhere let me know. Matt O. |
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15-05.-2008, 03:58 AM
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Re: recommend a pedal for a clipless noob
On Sat, 10 May 2008 19:15:22 -0700, landotter wrote:
> On May 10, 6:10 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters.net> wrote: >> Art Harris wrote: >> > Nate Nagel wrote: >> >> >>I haven't seen anything like the shoes you recommend above in any of >> >>the local stores, but that seems like it would meet my needs >> >>(walkable, but not a MTB shoe. I guess the keyword I should be using >> >>would be "touring?") >> >> > Yes, I can't understand why Shimano doesn't promote their SPD >> > Touring shoes more. I use the now discontinued T092's. Recently >> > Nashbar was selling the similar RT-50's (which seems to have been >> > replaced by the RT-51). These shoes aren't as clunky as MTB shoes, >> > and are great for road riding and walking. Good luck. >> >> > Art Harris >> >> hmm. don't seem to be much of anywhere to buy them based on a quick >> google - most of the hits are European. There also appears to be a >> more expensive RT-80, which I guess is an option as well. Do Shimano >> shoe sizes tend to be consistent across different product lines? Looks >> like I'd have to be fitted for a MTB or road shoe and then order the >> touring shoes online. > > The only big diff between the touring shoes and the mtb shoes are some > notches cut out of the nominal soles. Just get something and ride. More > important is that you got enough toe wiggle room. I got narrow feet and > can rock about any shoe as long as the heel cup is decent. I'm riding > cheeeep Exustar mtb shoes I picked up last fall at Nash for peanuts. > Flexier than my old road boards for sure, but walkable. Rode them sixty > miles today without thinking about my feet one second. Start cheap is my > theory, then see if your feet call for support or help. They might not. > If you ride hard and fast, they might scream for some nicer kit, > personally, mine are tough enough to not really care enough as long as > they're restrained and not scrunched up too much. Yeah, I've ridden much > finer kit--but this is cycling, not running, so as long as it's pretty > decent, it's good enough. I'll go along with this. You can indeed find MTB shoes on sale really cheap almost all the time. Most are not as waffle-stomperish as Jobst suggests. They're no worse than the running or hiking style shoes many of us wear all the time. IME though the "casual" style MTB shoes are crap, and fall apart in short order. Matt O. |
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15-05.-2008, 04:00 AM
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Re: recommend a pedal for a clipless noob
On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:42:54 +0000, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> As it is, I hear some of the top-end SPDs are pretty good at mud clearance > these days. Better than usual but nowhere near as good as Eggbeaters or Times. Matt O. |
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15-05.-2008, 05:12 AM
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Re: recommend a pedal for a clipless noob
On May 14, 12:58 pm, Matt O'Toole <mattoto...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
> IME though the "casual" style MTB shoes are crap, and fall apart in short > order. Oh, right--I mean more like the "race" type MTB shoes, which are more or less a road shoe with a slightly flexy walkable sole with a couple notches taken out. Mine I wouldn't want to hike in, but good enough to amble into a store. Indeed, I'm not a fan of more sneakery stuff. |
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15-05.-2008, 06:30 AM
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Re: recommend a pedal for a clipless noob
On May 14, 1:47*pm, Matt O'Toole <mattoto...@letterboxes.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:21:16 -0700, Michael Press wrote: > > In article > > <1171e645-bcea-4de3-9fba-19edd278e...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, > > *Art Harris <n...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> Nate Nagel wrote: > >> > Hi all, > > >> > I'm thinking about making the leap to clipless (I've got some fresh > >> > rat trap scars on the back of my leg, because I don't have either good > >> > pedals or good shoes at the moment) but am not sure what I should try > >> > first. > > >> > Most people are telling me to go SPD, but the guy at the LBS closest > >> > to my house tells me I really want Looks for more float (makes sense.) > >> > * > > >> I would recomment dual-sided SPD pedals such as the PD-M520. It has > >> enough float > > > The PD-M520 is good. I run its more expensive sibling PD-M540, for no > > particular reason. > > Drooling for the XTR PD-M970. > > > First pedal to earn XTR status > > > Our lightest MTB SPD pedal ever > > > Flourine [sic] coated binding claws allow easy entry and release > > >> I started out with Look pedals in the early '90s when they were the only > >> think around, and used them untill a few years ago. If you do any amount > >> of walking, an SPD pedal with a recessed cleat is a better choice. The > >> Look pedals make you walk like a duck, and the plastic cleats wear > >> quickly and tend to slip when you put a foot down. > > >> As for a shoe, I'd recommend the Shimano RT-51 because it has a good > >> stiff sole which will eliminate "hot spots" due to cleat pressure on > >> your foot. > > >> See: > >>http://bike.shimano.com/publish/con...n/us/index/prod... > > > I am shopping around for some RT-51's, because I have waffle stompers > > and want to go with the smooth soles. > > I don't know what the other differences might be, but the new one is too > garish, with the shiny silver color and the brand name too prominent. > The older one was a more subdued black and gray that didn't scream "bike > shoe" if you were wearing it around town. * > > If you find the RT50s on sale somewhere let me know. > > Matt O. Nashbar still has 'em, but not in my size. nate |
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15-05.-2008, 12:23 PM
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Re: recommend a pedal for a clipless noob
After using Time pedals for years, then Look Keo's, I've finally made
the switch to Speedplay Zero pedals. I had always heard people rave about them, and now I'm one too. With the Look Keo pedals, I always felt like I was about to come out of them on steep climbs. After going down last November in a minor crash, which cracked the carbon Keo, I took the plunge and bought the Zeros. They are very stable and easy on the knees. With respect to walking in them, just buy the Coffee covers and carry them with you.....no big deal. Greg On May 10, 10:01 am, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm thinking about making the leap to clipless (I've got some fresh rat > trap scars on the back of my leg, because I don't have either good > pedals or good shoes at the moment) but am not sure what I should try first. > > Most people are telling me to go SPD, but the guy at the LBS closest to > my house tells me I really want Looks for more float (makes sense.) I > don't think he's trying to make a sale because he's got a bucket full of > used pedals of both types, and he doesn't sell shoes at all. I was > hoping to be able to walk in whatever shoes I ended up getting but that > seems to not be an option for either? Also, what about the new SPD-SL? > > Also, any recommendations on shoes? I've just been wearing some old > soccer shoes on platforms and I can tell they're not stiff enough, my > toes feel a little weird after about 10 miles or so. > > I'm not looking for "the best" just something that will work well, > although I don't mind spending money if there's a real value in spending > more. > > Most of my riding will be on roads, FWIW... > > nate > > -- > replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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