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Old 12-06.-2008, 09:34 PM   #76
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Now that my friends have finally booked their flights from England I better get on the task of finding somewhere to stay - I see a big cabin, hot tub, BBQ etc etc also in my future.

I went out for my first lunchtime walk since this whole thing began. Felt rather good actually. My legs were rather sore from walking kinda funny for a couple of weeks because the right leg was a bit swollen for a while but nothing that the physio couldn't fix earlier this evening. I think I may actually jump on the mountain bike and go for a ride on the bike trial tommorrow night.

My right arm and leg still "feel" a little swollen - maybe I should measure them to see as maybe it feels that way as my back was out a little bit and from past events it's felt that way sometimes when things were out of whack quite a bit.

So, I'll be up there on the Friday. I'm still kinda holding out hope for doing the ride but common sense will prevail and if I haven't done anything much in the first two weeks in July then I might just call it a day and do something else until late afternoon....

Glad to read it is the right arm not the left arm...

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Old 14-06.-2008, 06:09 PM   #77
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Glad to read it is the right arm not the left arm...

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I've been pondering this for a couple of days....

Why is having the left arm swollen not as bad as the right? I still can't do jack on the bike so I guess both arms could be swollen and the result would be the same....

... but at least I can kinda walk around OK now, although my calf muscles are giving me a ton of grief and I get the feeling that it's related to 'the problem' that I'm dealing with.

Echocardiogram on Monday... should be interesting.
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I've been pondering this for a couple of days....

Why is having the left arm swollen not as bad as the right? I still can't do jack on the bike so I guess both arms could be swollen and the result would be the same....

... but at least I can kinda walk around OK now, although my calf muscles are giving me a ton of grief and I get the feeling that it's related to 'the problem' that I'm dealing with.

Echocardiogram on Monday... should be interesting.

Left arm and pectoral pain can indicate heart problems. I had such for quite a while but ignored it, thinking 1) I can't possibly have a heart problem; then 2) it must be my computer position...
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I've been pondering this for a couple of days....

Why is having the left arm swollen not as bad as the right? I still can't do jack on the bike so I guess both arms could be swollen and the result would be the same....

... but at least I can kinda walk around OK now, although my calf muscles are giving me a ton of grief and I get the feeling that it's related to 'the problem' that I'm dealing with.

Echocardiogram on Monday... should be interesting.

The echo was pretty darned interesting. I had no idea that the heart was so simple... little valves flapping up and down 'n stuff.

So the mystery continues.... apparently everything looked good. It still needs to be reviewed by a cardiologist but the tech said that it looked very good.
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The echo was pretty darned interesting. I had no idea that the heart was so simple... little valves flapping up and down 'n stuff.

So the mystery continues.... apparently everything looked good. It still needs to be reviewed by a cardiologist but the tech said that it looked very good.
For the job it is asked to do it is both amazingly simple and amazingly robust. If it were not so simple it would probably not be so robust. I was concerned that there might be something interfering with the integrity of those little valves.

Not sure what I would do next, probably something to look at the abdomen and aorta and the venous return to the heart from the lower extremities. abdominal ultrasound, venogram, something like that. At least you have interested doctors now.
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For the job it is asked to do it is both amazingly simple and amazingly robust. If it were not so simple it would probably not be so robust. I was concerned that there might be something interfering with the integrity of those little valves.

Not sure what I would do next, probably something to look at the abdomen and aorta and the venous return to the heart from the lower extremities. abdominal ultrasound, venogram, something like that. At least you have interested doctors now.

I was kinda worried about the amount of color on the screen at times - all that red and blue is was looking kinda patriotic - given that I'm a Brit living in the US it'd be like dual purpose. LOL The tech said it was normal and took a bit of time to point out how it all showed the blood flow. Before she explained I thought she was just saying that it was all good just to keep me relaxed.
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Old 21-06.-2008, 05:20 PM   #82
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So... having not received either a call or a reply to my email to the Doc, I'm assuming that the echo was good.... unless they just want that $30 to have me go into the docs office to tell me that.

Oddly I noticed the last couple of days that things have gotten a little worse again... I also noted that I've started eating cashews and raisens by the bucket load again - something that was a "new" discovery, and a rather yummy one, about two months ago....

... if I've missed two months off the bike because of a peanut with delusions of grandeur then I'm going to be pissed. Happy, but pissed.
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So... having not received either a call or a reply to my email to the Doc, I'm assuming that the echo was good.... unless they just want that $30 to have me go into the docs office to tell me that.
Yes they do....it is only $30 to you but you do not want to know how much your insurance company pays! It is a good sign that you have not recieved a call as if it was serious you would have gotten a phone call for sure.

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Yes they do....it is only $30 to you but you do not want to know how much your insurance company pays! It is a good sign that you have not recieved a call as if it was serious you would have gotten a phone call for sure.

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Well Kaiser is an insurance company and medical provider wrapped up in one big ugly mess. So far I'm down about $500 in co-pay and more than double that in lost earnings - most of which could have been "avoided" as some of the visits were routine questions that could have been answered via their online messaging system with the docs are supposed to reply to within three days.
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America's Health System is so screwed up and I can not see it getting better anytime soon. Sorry to hear about the lost earnings and hope your employer understands and can work with you while you go through this...


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Well Kaiser is an insurance company and medical provider wrapped up in one big ugly mess. So far I'm down about $500 in co-pay and more than double that in lost earnings - most of which could have been "avoided" as some of the visits were routine questions that could have been answered via their online messaging system with the docs are supposed to reply to within three days.
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Got an ultrasound of the "main veins" in my legs and all clear... everything down there is as nature intended, free from clots and in good condition....

Off to see specialists next - the new Doc seems very on the ball and tried to get things checked out that could be a cause using the facilities available at hand right now rather than go after a single thing and then wait for the results etc etc.

He's kinda like "House MD" without the gimp leg or whitty sarcasm... He's also a cyclist
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Got an ultrasound of the "main veins" in my legs and all clear... everything down there is as nature intended, free from clots and in good condition....

Off to see specialists next - the new Doc seems very on the ball and tried to get things checked out that could be a cause using the facilities available at hand right now rather than go after a single thing and then wait for the results etc etc.

He's kinda like "House MD" without the gimp leg or whitty sarcasm... He's also a cyclist
I am not sure where I would go from here. What I would really like to know is what does it take to cause your symptoms and what happens to the "important" numbers when the symptoms are present. This should lead one to the correct diagnosis quickly. The only way I can think of getting those numbers would be to exercise you on a treadmill or bike with a central catheter (for left and right heart filling pressures) and the ability to measure blood gasses and breathing metrics and exercise you until symptoms occur and see what happens to all the numbers. This is not your routine test but should be "easy" enough to do by one of the specialists once your doctor runs out of ideas. The only reason I am bringing it up is I have run out of ideas. At least it seems that some of the more awful things I could think of have been eliminated.
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I am not sure where I would go from here. What I would really like to know is what does it take to cause your symptoms and what happens to the "important" numbers when the symptoms are present. This should lead one to the correct diagnosis quickly. The only way I can think of getting those numbers would be to exercise you on a treadmill or bike with a central catheter (for left and right heart filling pressures) and the ability to measure blood gasses and breathing metrics and exercise you until symptoms occur and see what happens to all the numbers. This is not your routine test but should be "easy" enough to do by one of the specialists once your doctor runs out of ideas. The only reason I am bringing it up is I have run out of ideas. At least it seems that some of the more awful things I could think of have been eliminated.

Funnily enough the new doc did mention, whilst being totally confused, getting a Pulmonary specialist involved and maybe a Cardiologist too, rather than the nurses who work in those departments who perform the tests, with the possibility of doing some actual measured blood gas tests and the like

What was actually kinda funny, but when you think about it it's not, was that I told him I was a cyclist, I do "x" amount of training and he had "that" look of disbelief until I pulled out the last few printouts from my training sessions, showing altitude, HR, speed, cadance etc then the conversation actually changed somewhat.

There was some other stuff that was brought up too that the other Doc didn't ask that may/may not be of any consequence, like changes in diet, work routine (cause of stress) etc . So we're taking a look at that to just incase it is something off the wall. But after the last MD, I kinda like his approach of "lets see what we can do right now with what we have here in the hospital and not have to wait weeks for an appointment elsewhere" Then again, I hope that's the last time I jog up and down three flights of stairs with a oximeter attached to my finger and two staff making sure I don't crash and burn. LOL
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Funnily enough the new doc did mention, whilst being totally confused, getting a Pulmonary specialist involved and maybe a Cardiologist too, rather than the nurses who work in those departments who perform the tests, with the possibility of doing some actual measured blood gas tests and the like

What was actually kinda funny, but when you think about it it's not, was that I told him I was a cyclist, I do "x" amount of training and he had "that" look of disbelief until I pulled out the last few printouts from my training sessions, showing altitude, HR, speed, cadance etc then the conversation actually changed somewhat.

There was some other stuff that was brought up too that the other Doc didn't ask that may/may not be of any consequence, like changes in diet, work routine (cause of stress) etc . So we're taking a look at that to just incase it is something off the wall. But after the last MD, I kinda like his approach of "lets see what we can do right now with what we have here in the hospital and not have to wait weeks for an appointment elsewhere" Then again, I hope that's the last time I jog up and down three flights of stairs with a oximeter attached to my finger and two staff making sure I don't crash and burn. LOL
I like the approach of this guy (gal?) also. One needs answers here. Use the tools available to you to see if you can get them now. Might luck out and it would save you and the system a lot of time and money.
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I like the approach of this guy (gal?) also. One needs answers here. Use the tools available to you to see if you can get them now. Might luck out and it would save you and the system a lot of time and money.

Here's a new finding of note.

I rode the bike on the trainer tonight for 20 minutes, steadily increasing speed over the first 10 minutes to 21 mph. For the following 5 minutes I kept it pretty constant.

HR was comparible, to that of early May before this all started, at the given speed.... so it seems that only have a hard time walking fast or up and down stairs and my resting heart rate is still elevated around 95bpm (used to be in the low 50s) during the day. It's in the 50s when I check first thing before getting up.

Could it be that something is being "squished" somewhere in my abdomen when I stand up/walk yet when laying down or being supported on the bike by the bars I'm not effected?

What's also noteworthy is that my recovery from 155bpm to 100bpm after the 15 minutes was "almost" the same as that of a couple of months ago but given that I've been off the bike that long I'd expect that...
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