Cycling wrong way up one way street

Nick

®i©ardo wrote:

>>> Let him who is without sin cast the first rock.
>>>
>>
>> ?
>
> You must have a very full life watching that sign light up.
>
If you didn't have any serious arguments why did you nag me for a
response to your post?

JNugent

Nick wrote:

> ®i©ardo wrote:

[ ... ]

> I asked a question which was not been answered. You haven't answered it,
> apart from some meaningless unexplained comment about if being a
> non-comparative situation, whatever that mean?

>> Regardless of your obsessions, a person is far more likely, when
>> leaving a shop, to have a cyclist run into them whilst illegally
>> riding on the pavement than be hit by a motor vehicle undertaking a
>> similar exercise. The fact that pedestrians may, in order to avoid
>> personal injury, wish to take action against said cyclist is up to the
>> individual. Most pedestrians will be aware that regardless of the
>> course of action that they take in attempting to avoid being harmed,
>> they will more than likely to be the recipients of a gob full of abuse
>> from some moron who thinks his actions are saving the planet.

>> If you wish to introduce something more in line with your individual
>> prejudices please start a new thread on why it is morally justified to
>> throw rocks at the windscreens of cars that, in your opinion, are
>> speeding."

> I was just examining double standards and hypocrisy by comparing two
> situations. If you want to do that we can have a meaningful discussion.
> You know something along the lines of why you need to stress that a car
> is considered to be speeding only "in my opinion" but a cyclist riding
> on the pavement is apparently wrong in absolute terms rather than just
> in the "pedestrian's opinion".

This comes up repeatedly.

Cycling or driving along the footway is an offence, regardless of speed
(let's not start on the usual red-herring of so called "shared use"
routes). If a cyclist is cycling along the footway outside my house, or
outside the village shops, he's selfishly committing a particularly
anti-social offence. Full stop. Opinion doesn't come into it. No-one
needs any equipment except the Mk I Eyeball to see and understand the
offence.

Driving/riding along the carriageway (assuming all docs, etc, are in
order and that all other regulations are being complied with) is only an
offence if the speed is in excess of the local limit. An observer not
equipped with the appropriate measuring equipment can do do no more than
form an opinion about the speed. The opinion is worthless as a measuring
device.

JNugent

Nick wrote:

> In a road near my house they have a
> sign that shows car speeds, it is accurate. It was put up after the
> second kid was run down and killed within a year. When I'm on my bike
> going 30mph and cars overtake, often dangerously, I know they are
> speeding. There are many ways to reliably tell if a car is speeding.

Cite another one (that is available to you).

Why not ask the police to enforce the law for a few days (with a
hand-held radar set or similar)? It usually works.

Conor

In article <6arbp6F391auuU1@mid.individual.net>, Nick says...

> There are many ways I can be sure. In a road near my house they have a
> sign that shows car speeds, it is accurate.

How do you know? There's one in Pontesbury that's at least 7% out,
showing 32MPH when the lorry speedo is showing 30MPH and that's with
several different lorries.

> When I'm on my bike
> going 30mph and cars overtake, often dangerously, I know they are
> speeding. There are many ways to reliably tell if a car is speeding.

What are these ways to tell?

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Conor

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