Jackass

William Asher

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> In article <mhKWj.1853$r82.1631@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>> > David Millar is a jackass.
>>
>> OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his
>> bike. But it was in the final section of road where there were
>> barriers on each side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the
>> roadway-
>>
>> #1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting
>> ready for the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.
>>
>> #2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.
>>
>> Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that
>> he threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had
>> every right to be. But really, in a case like that, it should be
>> almost instinctive to get your non-functioning bike out of harms way.
>
> Fascinating bit of post-hoc reasoning. I can't help but feel the
> Slipstream mechanics may have wanted him to leave the bike a wee bit
> closer to the barriers, so they could retrieve it.
>
> But I do like your theory.
>
> This was, in fact, a much stronger toss than the notorious Riis throw.
> This leads us to the shocking conclusion that Riis was clean when he
> threw his bike.
>

There's a still image on CyclingNews of him standing there waiting for the
team car with his bike. So somebody handed it back over the barrier to him
as he stood by the side waiting.

I still think it was a woossie throw, he never got his whole body into it.

--
Bill Asher

John Forrest Tomlinson

On Wed, 14 May 2008 17:02:07 -0700 (PDT), ronaldo_jeremiah
<ronaldo_jeremiah@yahoo.com> wrote:

>After his immature move on that Vuelta mountain stage, the scores of
>bad equipment decisions in major races, and getting caught red-handed
>with hot sauce,

I love that stuff. Well, maybe not the doping, but the rest

Michael Press

In article
<540eba85-dffb-494a-bf27-08f06ac1bd2f@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
bar <barbaricia@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 14, 1:02*pm, Hell And High Water <bob.remove.hell...@att.net>
> wrote:
> > In article <7820caca-ca37-44c7-991d-
> > bf60940c4...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com
> > says...
> >
> > > David Millar is a jackass.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Yes he is.
>
> same old crybaby that he ever was ...

The team and equipment suppliers need that kind of exposure.
Millar rides the bicycles they tell him to ride.
The equipment is supposed to hold up to race conditions.
How much milage does a stage race bicycle get? Sheesh.
If he had had the time he could have left a testing sample
with the defunct racing equipment.

--
Michael Press

Paul G.

On May 14, 5:02 pm, ronaldo_jeremiah <ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On May 14, 3:38 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Throwing a bike is always lame.

Well he threw one down from the top of the stairs
Beautiful women were standing everywhere
They all got wet when he smashed that thing
But off in the dark you could hear somebody sing

It started back in 1963
His momma wouldnt buy him
That new Schwinn Varsity
He settled for a Huffy with a crack
But hes stIll trying to break his mommas back

There out to be a law with no bail
Smash a bike and you go to jail
With no chance for early parole
You don't get out tIll you get some soul

Late at night the end of the road
He wished he still had the old bike he rode
He'd rock it like a baby in his arms
Never let it come to any harm

Bret

On May 14, 6:02*pm, ronaldo_jeremiah <ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Throwing a bike is always lame.

The other end of the spectrum is Eric Zabel who had a frame collapse
under him in the middle of a TDF field sprint and never admitted that
the bike failed. They threw the bike in a van and never acknowledged
the failure. Kind of disappointing.

As someone who has tried to beat a few inanimate objects to death, I
can almost sympathize with Millar, but not the bike.

Bret

Howard Kveck

In article <90f6b1bb-397c-4d0e-a3c2-10a6b5a90a22@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Robert Chung <rechung@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 14, 3:54 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
> > I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
> > their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
> > disgust for much smaller slights.
>
> I've given up on throwing my bike around. It's a sacrifice, it really
> is, but I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see
> me throwing a bike. I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be
> in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think throwing a bike
> around during a war just sends the wrong signal.

You know, giving up golf, er, throwing bikes seems to be a lot like giving up
sweets during a war for some people: it makes for a nice soundbite but doesn't pan
out in reality (there's that word again). Of course, pointing that out would be
"petty bullshit."

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck

In article <e92a19dd-8bfe-46cd-9851-129b274d5aa4@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote:

> On May 14, 5:02 pm, ronaldo_jeremiah <ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > On May 14, 3:38 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Throwing a bike is always lame.
>
> Well he threw one down from the top of the stairs
> Beautiful women were standing everywhere
> They all got wet when he smashed that thing
> But off in the dark you could hear somebody sing
>
> It started back in 1963
> His momma wouldnt buy him
> That new Schwinn Varsity
> He settled for a Huffy with a crack
> But hes stIll trying to break his mommas back
>
> There out to be a law with no bail
> Smash a bike and you go to jail
> With no chance for early parole
> You don't get out tIll you get some soul
>
> Late at night the end of the road
> He wished he still had the old bike he rode
> He'd rock it like a baby in his arms
> Never let it come to any harm

Excellent.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Bret

On May 14, 9:36*pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 5:02 pm, ronaldo_jeremiah <ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 14, 3:38 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Throwing a bike is always lame.
>
> Well he threw one down from the top of the stairs
> Beautiful women were standing everywhere
> They all got wet when he smashed that thing
> But off in the dark you could hear somebody sing
>
> It started back in 1963
> His momma wouldnt buy him
> That new Schwinn Varsity
> He settled for a Huffy with a crack
> But hes stIll trying to break his mommas back
>
> There out to be a law with no bail
> Smash a bike and you go to jail
> With no chance for early parole
> You don't get out tIll you get some soul
>
> Late at night the end of the road
> He wished he still had the old bike he rode
> He'd rock it like a baby in his arms
> Never let it come to any harm

John Hiatt - Perfectly Good Guitar

Mike Jacoubowsky

| There's a still image on CyclingNews of him standing there waiting for the
| team car with his bike. So somebody handed it back over the barrier to
him
| as he stood by the side waiting.

I saw that photo. Pretty frightening place to be standing, I would think.
And the chain in the middle of the road... glad that didn't get flipped up
by the pack and cause a crash.

That photo does discount my theory. On the other hand, could be that a
spectator recovered his bike and handed it to him, and what's he going to do
at that point? Tell him no, keep it? :>)

In any event, in typical Giro fashion, it seemed like a pretty narrow run-in
for that final kilometer.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"William Asher" <gcnp58@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A9EBBE0E24CEFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4...
| Ryan Cousineau wrote:
|
| > In article <mhKWj.1853$r82.1631@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
| > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
| >
| >> > David Millar is a jackass.
| >>
| >> OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his
| >> bike. But it was in the final section of road where there were
| >> barriers on each side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the
| >> roadway-
| >>
| >> #1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting
| >> ready for the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.
| >>
| >> #2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.
| >>
| >> Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that
| >> he threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had
| >> every right to be. But really, in a case like that, it should be
| >> almost instinctive to get your non-functioning bike out of harms way.
| >
| > Fascinating bit of post-hoc reasoning. I can't help but feel the
| > Slipstream mechanics may have wanted him to leave the bike a wee bit
| > closer to the barriers, so they could retrieve it.
| >
| > But I do like your theory.
| >
| > This was, in fact, a much stronger toss than the notorious Riis throw.
| > This leads us to the shocking conclusion that Riis was clean when he
| > threw his bike.
| >
|
| There's a still image on CyclingNews of him standing there waiting for the
| team car with his bike. So somebody handed it back over the barrier to
him
| as he stood by the side waiting.
|
| I still think it was a woossie throw, he never got his whole body into it.
|
| --
| Bill Asher

Donald Munro

ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
>> David Millar is a jackass.

Scott wrote:

> Geez, cut him some slack. Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
> some anger/emotion.

I'm told you can buy slack on the cheap in some places in Philadelphia.

> Now, if he'd been a steroid-inflated baseball player who'd just struck out
> in the bottom of the ninth, he'd have broken the bike over his knee. THAT
> would've been impressive.

Millar sucked quite bad compared to Riis in the bike throwing contest,
particularly as Riis TT bike probably weighed a lot more than Millars
bike. Probably just another mkanifestation of the Millar line.

Donald Munro

Fred Fredburger wrote:
> I just claim to have spotted a terrorist. Throwing your bike at terrorists
> is the patriotic thing to do.

Unless the top tube is full of semtex (purely to get around the 6.8kg
rule of course).

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org

On May 14, 5:32*pm, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > On May 14, 3:54 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> > wrote:
> >> *I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
> >> their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
> >> disgust for much smaller slights.
>
> > I've given up on throwing my bike around. It's a sacrifice, it really
> > is, but I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see
> > me throwing a bike. I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be
> > in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think throwing a bike
> > around during a war just sends the wrong signal.
>
> I just claim to have spotted a terrorist. Throwing your bike at
> terrorists is the patriotic thing to do.

I too have made sacrifices in the War on Terror.
As part of our national effort, for the duration,
I've sworn to give up terrorism.

I sure hope we can win this war soon enough.
A man needs his hobbies, after all.

Ben

Donald Munro

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> I too have made sacrifices in the War on Terror. As part of our national
> effort, for the duration, I've sworn to give up terrorism.
>
> I sure hope we can win this war soon enough. A man needs his hobbies,
> after all.

I'd have thought your other hobby of killing off the 3rd world population
would take up all your time. Unless of course you've got bored and decided
to leave it to the cyclones and earthquakes.

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com

On May 15, 2:02*am, ronaldo_jeremiah <ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On May 14, 3:38*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, like YOU'd have handled it differently.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> You've got that right.
>
>
>
> > No reason for him to be so upset, he'd only just spent roughly 5 hours
> > working his arse off to put himself in a position to win a stage of
> > the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.
>
> Yeah, I know, that's never happened to anyone before in the history of
> bike racing.
>
>
>
> > Geez, cut him some slack. *Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
> > some anger/emotion.
>
> Millar has been given so much slack, he's really not entitled to any
> more. *He's lucky - very lucky - to be able to make a living racing a
> bike at all. *Further, he's outspoken about wanting to do things the
> right way. *I hardly think making an ass out of yourself on
> international television coverage, and implicitly belittling your
> equipment sponsors, is the way to do that.
>
> After his immature move on that Vuelta mountain stage, the scores of
> bad equipment decisions in major races, and getting caught red-handed
> with hot sauce, this guy should be doing his best to maintain a more
> positive profile. *Even moreso now that he is older, and a team owner.
>
> Throwing a bike is always lame.
>
> -rj

I'll say. Even if his chain didn't break, and he had won the stage,
he'd still be a jackass.

Joseph