cassettes and chains, a marriage without divorce?

Donald Munro

Howard Kveck wrote:
> I have half as many downtube shifters per bike as Jobst.

Half a downtube shifter weighs less than half a democratic party delegate.

Ryan Cousineau

In article <48425679$0$2877$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > I have half as many downtube shifters per bike as Jobst.
>
> Half a downtube shifter weighs less than half a democratic party delegate.

Only if they're from Florida. They carry no weight at all.

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ilanpsi@gmail.com

On May 30, 12:21*am, "Sandy" <leur...@free.fr> wrote:
> Dans le message denews:f1b236c4-1a49-4377-b526-f45081e1a4a2@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,
> ilan...@gmail.com <ilan...@gmail.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 7:09 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> In article
> >> <0541e7b7-41b6-45fe-bc11-3d52d7b97...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I have two new 10 speed shimano cassettes and chains and change them
> >>> each time I need to use different cog sets (12-23 vs 12-27).
> >>> However, I'm having a lot of problems finding the new pins. Is it
> >>> true that these day cassettes and chains still have to be kept as
> >>> one unit?
>
> >>> P.S. Sorry for the wrong group but I only trust people here.
>
> >> Reusable SRAM links. 9 speed or 10 speed?
> >> <http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Power+Link+9+sp...>
> >> <http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=PowerLock+10sp+...>
>
> >> --
> >> Michael Press
>
> > I guess I can just buy it online,
> >http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?...Chain+Pin+10sp+....
> > I just can't find it here in Paris:http://ilanpsi.blogspot.com/
>
> > -ilan
>
> DKT sells the KMC link - I recall the price being 5? for two. *It works
> fine, as does their chain, which may be under either DKT house brand or KMC
> brand. *Was 20? the last time I got one.

I just got it at Decathlon. I'm not used to going there, much better
than GoSport, the mechanic even explained to me how it works in every
detail. The bike salesman was really funny, he was trying to explain
to some clueless woman why you might want bike shorts on a long ride,
he said that wearing the wrong set of pants would be like putting fur
on your steering wheel. Oh, and I also bought some walking shoes.

I'll try it out on a ride tomorrow, but it seems that the problem is
that it could fall off if you drop your chain, which is maybe why they
give you a 2nd set. I put it in my saddle pack just in case....

Thanks again! Now I have to go back to the original bike shops which
told me I should never switch chains when changing cassettes.

-ilan

Robert Chung

On Jun 3, 4:44 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just got it at Decathlon. I'm not used to going there, much better
> than GoSport,

Which DKT?

ilanpsi@gmail.com

On Jun 4, 2:30 am, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 4:44 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I just got it at Decathlon. I'm not used to going there, much better
> > than GoSport,
>
> Which DKT?

Wagram near Place des Ternes. I was amazed, they even have a climbing
section with actual decent climbing shoes.As I said, unlike GoSport,
the salespeople actually know what they are talking about.

-ilan

Robert Chung

On Jun 3, 6:53 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:30 am, Robert Chung <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 3, 4:44 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > I just got it at Decathlon. I'm not used to going there, much better
> > > than GoSport,
>
> > Which DKT?
>
> Wagram near Place des Ternes. I was amazed, they even have a climbing
> section with actual decent climbing shoes.As I said, unlike GoSport,
> the salespeople actually know what they are talking about.

Ah, yes. That one. I've been in there. I sorta like DKT because even
though the salespeople ignore me I can see it's because they're
actually busy. When I go into a bike shop they ignore me but usually
because they're talking on a cell phone or being yelled at by the
owner or something. At least at DKT they don't actively dispense bad
info. I figure no info is better than bad info.

Donald Munro

Robert Chung wrote:
> At least at DKT they don't actively dispense bad info. I figure
> no info is better than bad info.

You have a fundamental disconnect with the Bush Whitehouse.

A R:nen

ilanpsi@gmail.com writes:

> I have two new 10 speed shimano cassettes and chains and change them
> each time I need to use different cog sets (12-23 vs 12-27). However,
> I'm having a lot of problems finding the new pins. Is it true that
> these day cassettes and chains still have to be kept as one unit?

Do you see a mechanic fiddling around with a chain tool when replacing
a pro's rear wheel during a race? As long as you don't let the chain
wear out so much that it starts wearing out the cassette as well (replace
early and often, for the definite answer(s) on how early and how often
you can ask in r.b.tech...), you can use the same chain with both
cassettes just fine.

By the way, anybody keeping score of chain failures on the pro circuit
by model? I think David Millar's famous projectile had a standard
Dura-Ace (7801) chain.