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SMS

Bill Sornson wrote:

>> Of course the AHZ's will come up with all sorts of bogus statistics
>> and falsehoods regarding injury rates. Fortunately, fewer and fewer
>> people seem to be falling for their propoganda.
>
> Which is why they're getting angrier and angrier. (Heh.)

They were amusing for a while, but the same old schtick got boring to me
(driving helmets, walking helmets, ignoring ER data while touting whole
populations studies, lack of any citations for their fallacies, trying
to compare injury and fatality rates of various types of transportation
by time rather than distance, etc.). I feel like it was listening to W
and his constantly changing explanations of why we're in Iraq. I think
that all the AHZs must be Republicans (not to say that every Republican
is an AHZ).

My newsgroup is so much cleaner with a gently used kill-file for the
most clueless of the clueless.

Frank Krygowski

On Jun 4, 4:41 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> My newsgroup is so much cleaner with a gently used kill-file for the
> most clueless of the clueless.

:-) And your life is so much simpler if you continually refuse to
discuss the facts! It saves all that tedious thinking!

Again, since you claim "all the studies" show such marvelous helmet
benefit, you should prove it by discussing the information at
http://www.ctcyorkshirehumber.org.uk/campaigns/velo.htm

- Frank Krygowski

Bill Sornson

SMS wrote:
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>
>>> Of course the AHZ's will come up with all sorts of bogus statistics
>>> and falsehoods regarding injury rates. Fortunately, fewer and fewer
>>> people seem to be falling for their propoganda.
>>
>> Which is why they're getting angrier and angrier. (Heh.)
>
> They were amusing for a while, but the same old schtick got boring to
> me (driving helmets, walking helmets, ignoring ER data while touting
> whole populations studies, lack of any citations for their fallacies,
> trying to compare injury and fatality rates of various types of
> transportation by time rather than distance, etc.). I feel like it
> was listening to W and his constantly changing explanations of why
> we're in Iraq.

You mean like Hillary and Bill Clinton, John Kerry, George Tenet, the Brits,
Russians, Israelis, French, etc. etc. etc.?

> I think that all the AHZs must be Republicans (not to
> say that every Republican is an AHZ).

Actually, my observation is exactly opposite: nearly every single AHZ is
left-wing politically, yet many (most) left-wing people are clearly
pro-helmet. (Republicans and conservatives ARE against mandatory helmet
laws for the most part, of course. Not sure about Dems, who favor
restrictions and regulations on almost everything under the sun it seems.)

> My newsgroup is so much cleaner with a gently used kill-file for the
> most clueless of the clueless.

I love to argue, but Frank and Flailor and Ravin' (Mad) and the rest all
became personally abusive and condescending, and it quickly became tiresome
and counter-productive. Life's too short as is.

Bill "live and let live...dammit" S.

Bill Sornson

For those of you who know about my bike crash (tire blow-out @ 40 mph) two
weeks ago, the verdict is in on X-ray film: broken scapula. (Ow!)

http://www.eorthopod.com/images/Con...omy_bones01.jpg

Also scheduled for an arthrogram MRI, to see any tears to my labrum, rotator
cuff, assorted tendons, etc.

NO WONDER IT HURTS!

Bill "see, it wasn't my imagination" S.

{OP left below. Link to lid pics now has one tire/tube and one helmet.}


Bill Sornson wrote:
> ...noggin!
>
> Flying down a steep, curvy road today, my front tire blew out just as
> I came around a turn. (4" of bead separated from the casing; fairly
> new Michelin Pro Race 2; no recent flats so not a "tube installation"
> issue.)
> I briefly thought I could save it, but as I headed down and left into
> the oncoming lane a car was headed right in my path so I had no
> choice but to try to steer the bike to the right. BLAM -- down I
> went on my right side at close to 40 mph.
>
> Immediate injury noticed was to my right shoulder. Probable torn
> ligaments if not rotator cuff (ripped previously so familiar with the
> pain). Road rash was surprisingly slight (knee, elbow, hip and
> shoulder -- the latter two protected a bit by Spandex so not visible
> until later).
> Another rider, Mike, came along and helped me. Started to fix my
> flat when he saw the trashed tire bead. (No pics yet.) Called my
> friend Miles (of world famous "Miles Todd crash video" fame) to pick
> me up.
> Then Mike said, "Well, your helmet sure did its job." I touched the
> outside shell and felt a scrape, but had no idea that I'd even hit my
> head, much less cracked the crap out of it:
>
> http://home.san.rr.com:80/billsornson/ (server wouldn't allow more
> than these three pics).
>
> So now it's 8-9 hours later and other than a really messed up
> shoulder I feel pretty decent. Sure my neck is going to be sore as
> hell tomorrow, and may end up needing surgery on the wing (time will
> tell), but no concussion, cracked skull, or hood
> ornament/undercarriage action, so all in all I'm feeling pretty
> fortunate. I just wish it had been my own error instead of an
> obvious product defect (and why couldn't it have been the REAR
> tire?!?)...
> Beaten Up But Not Beat (Yet) Bill

Marz

On Jun 11, 12:59*pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote:
> For those of you who know about my bike crash (tire blow-out @ 40 mph) two
> weeks ago, the verdict is in on X-ray film: *broken scapula. *(Ow!)
>
> - Show quoted text -

OW, indeed. So off the bike for a while then?

Frank Krygowski

On Jun 11, 1:59 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote:
> For those of you who know about my bike crash (tire blow-out @ 40 mph) two
> weeks ago, the verdict is in on X-ray film: broken scapula. (Ow!)
>
> http://www.eorthopod.com/images/Con.../shoulder_anato...
>
> Also scheduled for an arthrogram MRI, to see any tears to my labrum, rotator
> cuff, assorted tendons, etc.
>
> NO WONDER IT HURTS!
>
> Bill "see, it wasn't my imagination" S.

From now on: http://tinyurl.com/47b72l

Why, if only _one_ scapula can be saved....!

- Frank Krygowski

Bill Sornson

Marz wrote:
> On Jun 11, 12:59 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote:
>> For those of you who know about my bike crash (tire blow-out @ 40
>> mph) two weeks ago, the verdict is in on X-ray film: broken scapula.
>> (Ow!)
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

> OW, indeed. So off the bike for a while then?

Well, an intelligent person would say yes. I did a 40-mile ride last Friday
and a 20 Monday; just got diagnosis today. Doc said to baby it for 4-6
weeks -- and of course I still don't know about labrum, cuff, or other meaty
bits. (And, if it doesn't heal right, then surgery with pins and screws
still possible.)

I just did a one-armed-but-still-painful yoga class. Will keep riding to a
minimum, I guess, as pain allows. (It's not too bad on the bike, but
stopping hurts like hell, and a fall would be truly excruciating -- not to
mention dangerous.)

Bill "still got off lucky, but..." S.

Paul O

Frank Krygowski wrote, On 6/11/2008 5:04 PM:
> On Jun 11, 1:59 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote:
>
>> For those of you who know about my bike crash (tire blow-out @ 40 mph) two
>> weeks ago, the verdict is in on X-ray film: broken scapula. (Ow!)
>>
>> http://www.eorthopod.com/images/Con.../shoulder_anato...
>>
>> Also scheduled for an arthrogram MRI, to see any tears to my labrum, rotator
>> cuff, assorted tendons, etc.
>>
>> NO WONDER IT HURTS!
>>
>> Bill "see, it wasn't my imagination" S.
>>
>
> From now on: http://tinyurl.com/47b72l
>
> Why, if only _one_ scapula can be saved....!
>
> - Frank Krygowski
>
If Bill starts wearing body armor, then people will get the impression
that cycling is an unsafe activity... ;-)

--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

Bill Sornson

Paul O wrote:
> Frank Krygowski wrote, On 6/11/2008 5:04 PM:
>> On Jun 11, 1:59 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote:
>>
>>> For those of you who know about my bike crash (tire blow-out @ 40
>>> mph) two weeks ago, the verdict is in on X-ray film: broken
>>> scapula. (Ow!)
>>> http://www.eorthopod.com/images/Con.../shoulder_anato...
>>>
>>> Also scheduled for an arthrogram MRI, to see any tears to my
>>> labrum, rotator cuff, assorted tendons, etc.
>>>
>>> NO WONDER IT HURTS!
>>>
>>> Bill "see, it wasn't my imagination" S.
>>>
>>
>> From now on: http://tinyurl.com/47b72l
>>
>> Why, if only _one_ scapula can be saved....!
>>
>> - Frank Krygowski
>>
> If Bill starts wearing body armor, then people will get the impression
> that cycling is an unsafe activity... ;-)

Broken bones, possible major surgery... Nah, nothing wrong here!

If I stayed on bike paths like Frank, I'd prolly not even bother with a
helmet. (Also discovered that my sunglasses were totally scraped on right
side of frame, so lid -- which cracked in numerous places -- also helped
keep my scalp and face off the pavement, in addition to offering skull
protection.)

BTW, at least I was willing to ride home with a broken shoulder (tire was
trashed so couldn't), unlike certain people who go to the ER every time they
fall over in the parking lot (or get doored, like HWNMNBM).

Let's do an experiment: Frank recreates my fall riding lidless. (Oh, wait,
he never gets anywhere close to 40 mph.)

BS (callin' 'n sniffin' it)

Frank Krygowski

On Jun 11, 6:53 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote:
>
>
> If I stayed on bike paths like Frank, I'd prolly not even bother with a
> helmet.

:-) See http://www.bicyclinglife.com/Recrea...eSummerRide.htm


> Let's do an experiment: Frank recreates my fall riding lidless.

Sorry, Bill, I'm smart enough to stay upright.

> (Oh, wait, he never gets anywhere close to 40 mph.)

I _will_ admit to not yet breaking 55 mph. The day I had the best
shot at it, a motorist was in my way, so 54 is my personal record.

But really, where _does_ Bill get his wild ideas?

- Frank Krygowski