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04-06.-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
"Brian Huntley" <brian_huntley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:04c43d8f-a26a-41f9-a037-a60840e0bb9f@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... On Jun 2, 8:42 pm, "Saudade" <saudad...@nospamme.yahoo.com> wrote: >> A picture's worth a thousand words. Or, in my case, at least a couple of >> dozen. I also carry my cell phone and wallet in my rack bag. Everything >> else, except the pump, fits into the seat bag. >> >> http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k...nivega_0095.jpg >Is that a soccer ball inflator near the exention hose? Well, it *could* be used for that but I carry it to fill beach volleyballs.  |
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05-06.-2008, 04:41 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
I also carry bandages. Regular and those 2" ones. A little road rash,
clean it with water, bandage, on your way until you get home and can really deal with it. |
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05-06.-2008, 09:11 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
Per RS:
>A little road rash, >clean it with water, bandage, on your way until you get home and can >really deal with it. Few years back, a local cyclist (Southeastern Penna) lost his leg to road rash. Something about antibiotic-resistant bacteria ("necrotizing faciatitis"?) and a matter of hours before getting to a hospital. That started my on my BetaDyne kick - that, along with the recollection of getting really, *really* sick (as in can't recall anything for a couple of days and face swollen to where it was round) from just scraping myself with some sandpaper in Hawaii). Haven't got a clue if it would help - and at least one emergency ER person has told me they don't like the stuff bco tissue damage - but whenever I get a wound, I hose it out with drinking water, and then squirt BetaDyne into/over it. -- PeteCresswell |
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05-06.-2008, 09:16 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
news:nfbe445v8l47jl35taa6hgi9llptf9lqgk@4ax.com... > Per RS: >>A little road rash, >>clean it with water, bandage, on your way until you get home and can >>really deal with it. > > Few years back, a local cyclist (Southeastern Penna) lost his leg > to road rash. > > Something about antibiotic-resistant bacteria ("necrotizing > faciatitis"?) and a matter of hours before getting to a hospital. > > That started my on my BetaDyne kick - that, along with the > recollection of getting really, *really* sick (as in can't recall > anything for a couple of days and face swollen to where it was > round) from just scraping myself with some sandpaper in Hawaii). > > Haven't got a clue if it would help - and at least one emergency > ER person has told me they don't like the stuff bco tissue damage > - but whenever I get a wound, I hose it out with drinking water, > and then squirt BetaDyne into/over it. Water with a couple of extra drops of Clorox works just as well and is a heck of a lot cheaper. What's more, if you don't over-do the Clorox you can always drink the water in an emergency. "Chlorine bleach (unscented) such as Clorox or Purex. Check the label to be sure that hypochlorite is the only active ingredient. Do not use bleach that contains soap. - 4 to 6% chlorine - Add 8 drops of bleach/gallon of water" |
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05-06.-2008, 09:34 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:41:45 -0700, RS <r_schiller@comcast.net> wrote:
>I also carry bandages. Regular and those 2" ones. A little road rash, >clean it with water, bandage, on your way until you get home and can >really deal with it. You're joking right? Road rash is something that happens often enough on your rides that you prepare for it? |
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05-06.-2008, 01:53 PM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
In article <nfbe445v8l47jl35taa6hgi9llptf9lqgk@4ax.com>, x@y.Invalid
says... > > >Per RS: >>A little road rash, >>clean it with water, bandage, on your way until you get home and can >>really deal with it. > >Few years back, a local cyclist (Southeastern Penna) lost his leg >to road rash. > >Something about antibiotic-resistant bacteria ("necrotizing >faciatitis"?) and a matter of hours before getting to a hospital. > >That started my on my BetaDyne kick - that, along with the >recollection of getting really, *really* sick (as in can't recall >anything for a couple of days and face swollen to where it was >round) from just scraping myself with some sandpaper in Hawaii). > >Haven't got a clue if it would help - and at least one emergency >ER person has told me they don't like the stuff bco tissue damage >- but whenever I get a wound, I hose it out with drinking water, >and then squirt BetaDyne into/over it. >-- >PeteCresswell Yes, Betadine is good stuff and if something unfortuneate happens I will use it once I get home. Would be totally impractical to carry it but just washing off an rash on the road helps a lot, you're right. |
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05-06.-2008, 01:56 PM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
In article <a4de44l0dq210esnmgnp1a2mak853k3aio@4ax.com>,
usenetremove@jt10000.com says... > > >On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:41:45 -0700, RS <r_schiller@comcast.net> wrote: > >>I also carry bandages. Regular and those 2" ones. A little road rash, >>clean it with water, bandage, on your way until you get home and can >>really deal with it. > > >You're joking right? Road rash is something that happens often enough >on your rides that you prepare for it? Fortuneately a couple of very minor incidents but it can happen. Why risk infection? I carry 2 tubes because I broke a valve on one when I got a flat 20 miles out and fortuneately had a patch kit with me. Since carrying the extra tubes, patch kit and Park quick patches I haven't gotten a flat. |
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05-06.-2008, 06:44 PM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:56:58 -0700, RS <r_schiller@comcast.net> wrote:
>Fortuneately a couple of very minor incidents but it can happen. Good to hear. > Why risk infection? Because the odds of having the road rash are so low. You could fall and get an infection in other situations. Do you carry the kit off the bike too? |
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05-06.-2008, 11:54 PM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
In article <EOGdna9QWcvzrdrVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message > news:nfbe445v8l47jl35taa6hgi9llptf9lqgk@4ax.com... > > Per RS: > >>A little road rash, > >>clean it with water, bandage, on your way until you get home and can > >>really deal with it. > > > > Few years back, a local cyclist (Southeastern Penna) lost his leg > > to road rash. > > > > Something about antibiotic-resistant bacteria ("necrotizing > > faciatitis"?) and a matter of hours before getting to a hospital. > > > > That started my on my BetaDyne kick - that, along with the > > recollection of getting really, *really* sick (as in can't recall > > anything for a couple of days and face swollen to where it was > > round) from just scraping myself with some sandpaper in Hawaii). > > > > Haven't got a clue if it would help - and at least one emergency > > ER person has told me they don't like the stuff bco tissue damage > > - but whenever I get a wound, I hose it out with drinking water, > > and then squirt BetaDyne into/over it. > > Water with a couple of extra drops of Clorox works just as well and is a > heck of a lot cheaper. What's more, if you don't over-do the Clorox you can > always drink the water in an emergency. > > "Chlorine bleach (unscented) such as Clorox or Purex. Check the label to be > sure that hypochlorite is the only active ingredient. Do not use bleach that > contains soap. - 4 to 6% chlorine - Add 8 drops of bleach/gallon of water" Problem here is that the solution disinfects only when made fresh daily. Bleach is a rather complex buffered solution. Once diluted from bottle strength the buffering is changed and the active fraction salts out. Please do not ask me much more. I had a spot of bother with rates and buffering in freshman chemistry, and even the mavens in sci.chem had to thrash out bleach before reaching agreement on exactly what is going on. Suffice to say that all agents who are held accountable for their recommendations tell us to make a new solution each day. <http://www.ehrs.columbia.edu/decon.html> -- Michael Press |
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06-06.-2008, 09:23 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
Per RS:
>Would be totally impractical to carry it but just >washing off an rash on the road helps a lot, you're right. Those itty-bitty squeeze bottles that contact lens solution samples come in work pretty well. -- PeteCresswell |
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06-06.-2008, 09:26 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
Per John Forrest Tomlinson:
>Because the odds of having the road rash are so low. > >You could fall and get an infection in other situations. Do you carry >the kit off the bike too? Am I the only one that's heard of people getting into serious trouble (as in loss of a leg) from "flesh-eating bacteria", aka "necrotizing faciatitis"? Or from antibiotic-resistant staph? Maybe actual "road" rash - from falling on pavement - is rare; but riding off road, I've had my share (maybe a little more than my share) of fairly-impressive gashes and punctures... as in several per year. -- PeteCresswell |
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06-06.-2008, 09:55 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:26:50 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote: >Per John Forrest Tomlinson: >>Because the odds of having the road rash are so low. >> >>You could fall and get an infection in other situations. Do you carry >>the kit off the bike too? > >Am I the only one that's heard of people getting into serious >trouble (as in loss of a leg) from "flesh-eating bacteria", aka >"necrotizing faciatitis"? Or from antibiotic-resistant staph? > >Maybe actual "road" rash - from falling on pavement - is rare; >but riding off road, I've had my share (maybe a little more than >my share) of fairly-impressive gashes and punctures... as in >several per year. I guess off road is a different thing - I don't do it and have only heard such. In this discussion, I assumed road rash was from the road and that's what the person earlier was talking about. If you cut yourself from falling on the road in your regular riding with any frequency, you're doing something wrong. |
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06-06.-2008, 11:13 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Per John Forrest Tomlinson: >> Because the odds of having the road rash are so low. >> >> You could fall and get an infection in other situations. Do you >> carry the kit off the bike too? > > Am I the only one that's heard of people getting into serious > trouble (as in loss of a leg) from "flesh-eating bacteria", aka > "necrotizing faciatitis"? Or from antibiotic-resistant staph? > > Maybe actual "road" rash - from falling on pavement - is rare; > but riding off road, I've had my share (maybe a little more than > my share) of fairly-impressive gashes and punctures... as in > several per year. Who's smoking what around here? If you fall on the road going fairly fast (as I did one week ago), you're going to get road rash. I took a high-speed (40 mph) fall on a turning descent, and /only/ got rash (scrapes and abrasions) on my right knee, hip, both elbows, left wrist, left hand (minor), and the worst was a severe contusion to my right shoulder (torn ligaments if not labrum or rotator cuff). I used rubbing alcohol (THAT felt good) when I got home and never dressed the wounds at all. Also have a hot tub with chlorine. I suppose it's conceivable that some nasties could get in there, but I've never worried about 'em and so far so good. Bill "hoping to try first ride back tomorrow" S. |
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06-06.-2008, 11:35 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> wrote in message
news:48489d35$0$4255$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > I used rubbing alcohol (THAT felt good) when I got home and never dressed > the wounds at all. Also have a hot tub with chlorine. The hot tub with chlorine was the kicker. If you stay in for an hour you heal very rapidly and usually without scarring. You have to have a fairly high level of chlorine though. |
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06-06.-2008, 11:47 AM
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Re: What do you carry in your toolkit?
On Jun 5, 7:13*pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote:
> (PeteCresswell) wrote: > > Per John Forrest Tomlinson: > >> Because the odds of having the road rash are so low. > > >> You could fall and get an infection in other situations. *Do you > >> carry the kit off the bike too? > > > Am I the only one that's heard of people getting into serious > > trouble (as in loss of a leg) from "flesh-eating bacteria", aka > > "necrotizing faciatitis"? * Or from antibiotic-resistant staph? > > > Maybe actual "road" rash - from falling on pavement - is rare; > > but riding off road, I've had my share (maybe a little more than > > my share) of fairly-impressive gashes and punctures... as in > > several per year. Your limbs could fall off from flesh-eating bacteria. You could also get hantavirus, or salmonella, or sleeping sickness, just from breathing, or eating, or even from cannibalism. All of these things happen (well, sleeping sickness is rare in the US), it's just a question of how often and should you stay at home under the covers or douse yourself in Purell after going outside. Each rare case of flesh-eating bacteria gets reported widely solely because it's gross. > > Who's smoking what around here? *If you fall on the road going fairly fast > (as I did one week ago), you're going to get road rash. *I took a high-speed > (40 mph) fall on a turning descent, and /only/ got rash (scrapes and > abrasions) on my right knee, hip, both elbows, left wrist, left hand > (minor), and the worst was a severe contusion to my right shoulder (torn > ligaments if not labrum or rotator cuff). > > I used rubbing alcohol (THAT felt good) when I got home and never dressed > the wounds at all. *Also have a hot tub with chlorine. > > I suppose it's conceivable that some nasties could get in there, but I've > never worried about 'em and so far so good. Keep a bottle of hydrogen peroxide at home. It stings, but far less badly than rubbing alcohol. It's cheap at any drugstore. We used to bring it as part of the first aid kit at MTB and CX races, where scrapes and dirt are expected. Hydrogen peroxide and alcohol are not great disinfectants, but hydrogen peroxide is moderately effective for cleaning wounds. If you're really worried about this, you can follow up with an antibiotic cream. IMO, overuse of antibiotics is worse than the occasional scrape. If you get road rash, dressing it with Tegaderm or equivalent (semipermeable clear bandage - small ones about 3x4" are available at drugstores) will keep the wound moist and prevent scabbing. This heals more quickly and less painfully. Ben |
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