problem with panniers and racks

G-S

BT Humble wrote:
> G-S wrote:
>> BT Humble wrote:
>>
>>> I think that the problem is most likely mainly caused by his use of a
>>> (relatively) short-wheelbase bike for touring.
>> That would explain why I have the problem with the cypress city yes...
>>
>> care to have a go at explaining why I have the problem with the long
>> wheelbase Fuji Touring BT?
>
> Because you've got a body like a bloody garden gnome, you big-footed
> bluebottle! ;-)
>
> (Hey, give it to me if you don't like it...)
>

*Does an impression of a garden gnome and pisses in the wind* [1]



G-S


[1] Upwind of BT's K-Mart bike of course ;-)

Tomasso

"terryc" <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message newsan.2008.06.01.13.00.05.945504@woa.com.au...
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:31:15 +1000, Tomasso wrote:
>
>
>> True, but my old Karrimor rack and bags are still fine. Must be 30 years now...
>
> Weird, both my genuine and yumcha version were squashed very fast. There
> was a design problem that meant they had all curved stays that eventually
> sank under load. My bags are still around, but mainly as i used them as a
> pattern to make my own panniers.

I guess it's a question of load. I'm sure Terry carried much more than me,
including an anvil and hammers. Normally I wouldn't put more than a tent
and a sleeping bag on top of the rack, and leave most of the stuff for the
bags.

T.

terryc

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:30:35 +1000, Tomasso wrote:

> I guess it's a question of load. I'm sure Terry carried much more than me,
> including an anvil and hammers. Normally I wouldn't put more than a tent
> and a sleeping bag on top of the rack, and leave most of the stuff for the
> bags.

Hey, there is nothing wrong with a 15" shifter, 15
' fencing pliers and two kilos of tools and spares[*]. My sleeping bag
and clothing always went in the right rear, with the tent, food and
cooking gear in the left rear. Lunch, spouts and water went into the front
pair and camera, maops in the handlebar bar (not to self to get Aintog and
repair that bag).

Personally, I think it was the watermelons {:-).

[*] Cootmaundra, Tumut, Canberra trip right at the time that Sedi brought
out those chains that completely disintergrated. I was also carrying 5
spare chains and a spare rear cluster. Lol, the biggest problem turned out
to the claggy mud on the forest trails. Nicknamed the "worshippers of the
crescent moon" trip as everyone removed their mud guards and had them
slung over their rear rack.


> T.

PeteSig

"terryc" wrote:

>[*] Cootmaundra, Tumut, Canberra trip right at the time that Sedi brought
> out those chains that completely disintergrated. I was also carrying 5
> spare chains and a spare rear cluster.

For godsake, WHY??

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Cheers
Peter

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terryc

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:09:05 +0000, PeteSig wrote:

>
> "terryc" wrote:
>
>>[*] Cootmaundra, Tumut, Canberra trip right at the time that Sedi brought
>> out those chains that completely disintergrated. I was also carrying 5
>> spare chains and a spare rear cluster.
>
> For godsake, WHY??

Well, I had just purchased a new rear cluster and three chains to go with
it and arrived in Wagga Wagga (not coota) with the realisation that all
three chains were cactus. Actually, I was about 20kms out of town when it
became clear and it was a bolt back to town before midday closing for
three new chains and "oh-bugger, none were thin enough to fit the new
cluster", and so a new rear cluster (alas only 5 speed).

The 15" fencing pliers were actually to reconstruct the crumbing chain
links.

The 15" shifter was to remove rear clusters and considered as share
weight[*]. It was all part of NCM tours and most were relatively new to
touring. So we got them to bring 5 spare spokes of each required length
and I supplied the shifter and various removers if we needed to deal with
broken rear spokes. At that stage, I was the only one with the cluster
remover braised onto my frame. Well before all these fancy tools were
around.
[*] Actually, it was the first trip where the tool kit was weighed in as
group weight and counted as my share. Good in one sense as I wasn't now
carrying a double share, but bad as my share didn't get lighter as the
trip went on.

cfsmtb

In regard to the chains, were they just shite quality and/or inappropriate or were there wear pattern issues?