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obakesan

Pat

In article <486254F8.B550194E@turneraudio.com.au>, Patrick Turner
<info@turneraudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>obakesan wrote:
>>

>> please remove undies for reply
>
>
>I'm extremely fussy about who I remove my undies for.
>I don't like causing heart failure amoung the sheilas :-0

well, it was the posts grundies, not yours ;-)


>Seriously, plenty of talk about heart rates at
>http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/...php/t-3813.html

sure ... but I was wonderin about Theo's

>
>Plenty more if you study with Google.

I'm not quite typical though, with a starting handicap of a bicuspid aorta
from birth which got replaced ... yadda yadda yadda ....

so while I take my training seriously (like my quality of life depends on it)
I'm not in the 'elite athlete' league (by a long strech).


>Beginning to do long distances regularly at an early age also make a
>young heart grow a lot bigger than if someone soft pedals all through their

I understand ... mine was sorta pressing lungs back for size at the age of 10

[muchos info deleted]

>It should be 220 minus your age, so at 40 I should have been able to
>measure HR max = 180.
>But I never measured 180, no matter how hard i seemed to try to go, sore
>legs, aching knees

I'm sorta the opposite, I hit 180 well before my muscles ache



>But I often saw HR 140 at age 40, and apparently I get up to about 130
>now, at 61.

>The crucial health infomation is in the way your heart slows down after
>reaching a maximum.

indeed ... despite the leaks it still returns fast, so I'm happy with that!


>I struggled through 80km this arvo where the temp max was 13C,
>and the wind blew hard all the way home.
>But the river at Point Hutt looked fine.

and stuff like that makes it all worth while don't it

thanks for the info!

:-)

See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)

Chris Eastwood
Photographer, Programmer Motorcyclist and dingbat
blog: http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/

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terryc

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:23:54 +0000, Patrick Turner wrote:


> It should be 220 minus your age,

Nope, the current fashion is the lower, the better, especially if you have
other conditions.

Beware of quacks offering BP lower drugs. Not so recently, one urned out
to actually increase the overall risk, aka kill people.

theo

On Jun 25, 6:27*pm, Halcyon <pa...@mcmedia.com.au> wrote:
> theo wrote:
> > *Stuck on 447 donations.
>
> > My resting heart rate is around 80, Was when I was a teenager, was
> > when I was doing 10,000 km/yr, is now when I'm older, greyer and
> > fatter.


> Hats off to you Theo...that's an enviable record! We talking plasma
> donations here I take it? Or are you around 127 years old?
> My RHR dropped from 80 to high 50's when I got serious about the
> cycling. Different strokes for different folks.

Plasma or platelets. My first 50 donations were whole blood.I've been
donating since I was 21 and this is why I know what my resting heart
rate is. I never take any notice of my heart rate at any other time.
And no, I'm not 127, but my dad is 94 now and his dad got to 96, so I
think I've got a while yet.

Theo

BT Humble

BT Humble wrote:
> It's probably not such a bad idea, and as a bonus I'd get to be hooked
> up to a machine that costs over three-quarters of a million pounds
> that goes "ping!"

Can I just say how disappointed I am with you people - I was expecting
somebody to pick up and run with that Monty Python quote much sooner!


BTH

John Pitts

On 2008-06-26, BT Humble <bt_humble@bigpond.com> wrote:
> BT Humble wrote:
>> It's probably not such a bad idea, and as a bonus I'd get to be hooked
>> up to a machine that costs over three-quarters of a million pounds
>> that goes "ping!"
>
> Can I just say how disappointed I am with you people - I was expecting
> somebody to pick up and run with that Monty Python quote much sooner!

Well, we certainly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

--
John
It's not rocket surgery.

Mr. Terrier

John Pitts:

> On 2008-06-26, BT Humble <bt_humble@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> BT Humble wrote:
>>> It's probably not such a bad idea, and as a bonus I'd get to be hooked
>>> up to a machine that costs over three-quarters of a million pounds
>>> that goes "ping!"
>>
>> Can I just say how disappointed I am with you people - I was expecting
>> somebody to pick up and run with that Monty Python quote much sooner!
>
> Well, we certainly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

_Nobody_, expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

--
Steve = : ^ )

obakesan

In article <C48BD046.2337D%pretty_good@every.thing>, "Mr. Terrier" <pretty_good@every.thing> wrote:
>John Pitts:
>
>> On 2008-06-26, BT Humble <bt_humble@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> BT Humble wrote:
>>>> It's probably not such a bad idea, and as a bonus I'd get to be hooked
>>>> up to a machine that costs over three-quarters of a million pounds
>>>> that goes "ping!"
>>>
>>> Can I just say how disappointed I am with you people - I was expecting
>>> somebody to pick up and run with that Monty Python quote much sooner!
>>
>> Well, we certainly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!
>
>_Nobody_, expects the Spanish Inquisition!!
>

our chief weapon is surprize ....

See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)

Chris Eastwood
Photographer, Programmer Motorcyclist and dingbat
blog: http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/

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Patrick Turner

terryc wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:23:54 +0000, Patrick Turner wrote:
>
> > It should be 220 minus your age,
>
> Nope, the current fashion is the lower, the better, especially if you have
> other conditions.
>
> Beware of quacks offering BP lower drugs. Not so recently, one urned out
> to actually increase the overall risk, aka kill people.

Its a long time since I spent time listening to the elite
riders talking about what their coaches told them.

Anyway, for me 220 - 61 = 161, and damned if I can get my heart to go
anywhere
near 161!

But I have known other older veteran riders who did very fast TTs and
they all did manage
faster HR than I ever could. I couldn't even stay up with them when
riding close behind
on a flat road. Some were 10 years old than me, 50, and they'd get 1:02
for 40km,
and I'd only get 1:08 maybe.
One would do 11 mins for 8k, I'd do 12:30.
Neil Stephens was on holiday from Europe and did a 9:30, much faster
than the club's seniors,
but you'd expect that from a pro.
But one guy who was 10 years older and a faster time trialist than I
ever was hated being in bunch
races with me and the others; he couldn't handle the changes in pace and
attacks.
Then of course there were others who barely stayed with the bunch in
race, but at the
end they'd easily sprint past everyone.
Cyclists come in all shapes and sizes and with much different
physiologies.

But I have only seen about 2 veterans still riding out of the 50 or so I
saw regularly
some 16 years ago.
Some of the club veterans now racing were seniors 16 years ago, and
they are now as fast I once was, and if i rode with my ghost of 42 I
couldn't
keep up with myself.

The older ya get, tha betta ya woz!

Patrick Turner.