2008 Tour de France Stage 16 - Tuesday, July 22: Cuneo - Jausiers, 157 km

mitosis

You referring to Hincapie?

Klodifan

of couse, I could have misheard him, but it definitely sounded like VandeVelde said he was hoping the others crash too.

b1_

He did want the break to succeed. As long as no-one in it was a threat to Cadel Lotto would have been happy to see Popovych take the stage - would have been a good morale boost for the next stage. Of course Lotto would want Popo to save his energy but he was needed in the break away all the way to the top of the last climb. There's no point him dropping back to save energy on the descent, so he was free to go for the win.

Confusedfan explained it pretty well. Popo was not needed by Cadel today. If Cadel had cracked you would have seen Popo drop back immediately. Popo has been paid a lot of money to support Cadel. Even if he hates Cadel's guts he's not going to sabotage his own career by rebelling against team orders. These guys are professionals.

Seriously, what telecast are you watching and who are the commentators, because on the one I'm watching all this is being explained.

Grater

Never ever doubt me. 3 in the break including Siutsou. I know this team inside out.

Hitchy

I guess if you say the same thing every day, it'll be right sooner or later...along the lines of , if you give 10,000 monkeys a pen & paper, sooner or later they'll write the complete works of shakespeare

EvilJediJ

def didn't say that. I have it taped on my tivo. He said "Cofidis rider crashed too" Not "hope they would crash too"... The cofidis rider was maxime momfort..who also crashed.

adamastor

Sastre tried, but saw (was it Kohl?) hold on to him. As he didn't feel too strong, he preferred to stay put with Andy and Frank. As Frank was in a shit shape, they didn't want to cause chaos in the group. Shame, this would have made the highlight of the Tour, as there we would have clearly seen who is the strongest.

Alpe d'Huez will be different, but in the end, 3 or 4 of the contenders will end up within 2 minutes, and Cadel will win it on Saturday. Only other alternative I see is Kohl putting 3 minutes in Alpe today. He looks really strong. I'm just disappointed that Andy will probably again stay with his brother. After the Tour, experts might actually say that this brotherhood "cause" will have cost CSC the TDF win in Paris.

earth_dweller

yep he said 'cofidis guy crashed too'

Drongo

The problem, Grater, is that no-one is sure if you know that there are other teams.

I'll doubt you when you pick a Columbia 1-2-3 as you did for Stage 12.


It was Kohl. Straight on to his wheel. Sastre didn't even get past Andy Schleck before giving up. The others would have had to scramble, but Kohl was straight there. Evans moved up in the group after he saw the attacks might start.

But there are other explanations that make sense (that is, why no attacks), eg from Riis, quoted on the SBS site:

TheDarkLord

I see. So, those are not your comments, they are what the commentators have been saying in your telecast (and we have had enough examples of their stupid comments in this forum). I can make my own opinions based on what I see thank you, and also the Eurosport commentary is intelligent enough to not make stupid comments like that.

TheDarkLord

Unless mentioned otherwise, wheelsucker = Evans.

Scotttri

Wow congrats you finally fluked one right!!

Scotttri

I'm in agreeance with a lot of your posts. Dont let the others annoy you there all shit stirrers, it's part and parcel of posting here!!

Cadel did well Yesterday and I hope he does the same today, Popo in my opinion and as I posted earlier in the thread has done nothing in this tour so far purely because he hasn't been needed. He wqas there if needed yesterday and I think the same will go for today!!

TheDarkLord

Ok, thanks for clarifying that! Given how sportsmanlike they have been, it was totally odd that someone would make such a comment.