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2008 Tour de France Stage 17 - Wednesday, July 23: Embrun - L'Alpe-d'Huez, 210.5 km

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Old 23-07.-2008, 09:58 PM   #76
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How much time do you think Sastre or Frank can get on Evans in the final climb? Remember, none of these guys is climbing like Ricco.

I think that Sastre and Frank have to be willing to risk blowing themselves up today if they want a chance to win. Not blowing up, but gaining only seconds on Evans is a losing strategy.

I think Evans needs to worry about Menchov. Menchov could take forty-five or more seconds. If he does a good time trial then he was win the whole enchilada.
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How much time do you think Sastre or Frank can get on Evans in the final climb? Remember, none of these guys is climbing like Ricco.

I think that Sastre and Frank have to be willing to risk blowing themselves up today if they want a chance to win. Not blowing up, but gaining only seconds on Evans is a losing strategy.

BUt if you aren't strong enough to have another choice, what does it matter. I don't think either is that much better on climbs. Menchov may be strong enough combined climbing and TT though as Bro suggests.
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Ah! Some welcome action. Kohl, Wegmann and a couple of other riders (Voeckler is there) have attacked and have a decent lead over the peloton.

Good to see Kohl attack since that is bound to induce a reaction among the GC contenders.
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Ah! Some welcome action. Kohl, Wegmann and a couple of other riders (Voeckler is there) have attacked and have a decent lead over the peloton.

OK, now you all must know that I hate you all....they uped my deadline from Friday to Thursday, and I have to leave the house now to go work.....I hate you...
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OK, now you all must know that I hate you all....they uped my deadline from Friday to Thursday, and I have to leave the house now to go work.....I hate you...


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Ah! Some welcome action. Kohl, Wegmann and a couple of other riders (Voeckler is there) have attacked and have a decent lead over the peloton.

Good to see Kohl attack since that is bound to induce a reaction among the GC contenders.


Probably just King of the Mountain points - it's too early for serious GC attacks.

edit: these downhills are nerve racking.
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OK, now you all must know that I hate you all....they uped my deadline from Friday to Thursday, and I have to leave the house now to go work.....I hate you...
I feel for you TFF. Yesterday I missed the first HC climb due to a meeting. I too have a deadline on Friday, but I'm shuffling work to after the stage ends.

Wow, Perez almost had a disaster in the descent.
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OK, now you all must know that I hate you all....they uped my deadline from Friday to Thursday, and I have to leave the house now to go work.....I hate you...

That is what you get for living so far east.
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Probably just King of the Mountain points - it's too early for serious GC attacks.
Yeah, you're right. But looks like some have taken off on the descent.

Who all crashed? Perez almost went off the side Augustyn style. De Gregorio almost lost it but then regained balance without falling off the bike. Eisel and Hansen also crashed at a hairpin bend.
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Crash and burn O'Grady - bloody Aussie.
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Hincapie crashed at some point and has scraped up his shorts on his left side (don't know how bad he is scratched up).
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Crash and burn O'Grady - bloody Aussie.

He's not haveing a good season
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De Gregorio is not descending well (compared to the other three in the break) and has been dropped.
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Make or break coming up shortly for CSC.
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Make or break coming up shortly for CSC.

Probably break!!!
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