Max RPM's

ckret

Is there any standarize testing to compare max RPMS. My training partners and I have a standing competition on a lifecycle at our gym, but i know there has to be some type of testing that has been done.

Anyone interested, the best we can do is 254 at a standard level of 8. I am sure gym bikes are all different so unless you use the one we use there really is no comparison, but it makes our workouts a little more interesting.

Sprinter_989

254!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who got that???
Most I've ever got is 224 on indoor trainer.

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taras0000

I do mine on rollers and the best i've done was 263. My rollers don't have any resistance unit on them, and i get the result off of my speedometer. Try it this way, on your own bike, you may get a higher reading. And no cheating, must be done with a fixed gear.

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Sprinter_989

No resistance!!!!! thats a great idea no wonder i can only get up to 224

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VeloFlash

My computer cadence readout stops at 199.

So my brag is I can do 199+ with and without resistance

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steve

about 220 for me, although I havent tried it for 5 or 6 years

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velomanct

i hit 242 on my trainer with no resistence about 4 years ago.
with light resistence i can do about 220

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Lasalles

This may be incorrect but i think i recalled an old article saying that Gary Neiwand clocked 300rpm in training once.

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taras0000

300 rpm, i could believe it. I witnessed Kurt Harnett hit 275

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drewjc

300 sounds a lot but Gary Niewand was awesome in his day. My best is about 220 on the road and 240 on the rollers i think. Another slightly different comparison/competition would be to see who can travel at the higest speed on the rollers in any gear on any bike. My best is about 95km/h i think, not brilliant but i had that 53x12 pumping!

bikeguy

I don't see what's so fantastic/useful about 300 rpm with no resistance, it's equivalent to 5 stride per second turnover rate in a 60-100 meter dash (running) *except* that there is a high load and ROM in sprinting. I can hit 275 rpm with no load on a bicycle ergo, the gym guys asked me not to use the equipment anymore because they said I'd break it! My best 100 m is about 11.4 sec, but I can't approach 5 strides/sec (more like very low 4's) because my muscles power is poor in that range of motion. If you can reach 5 strides/sec with a reasonable stride length in a 100m dash, you'll win every race. I don't see the high rpm no load ergometer rpm relevance to cycle track sprinting as max rpm is 160-170, nowhere near 250+ rpm and the loads are quite high (if you can do 70+ km/h).

bikeguy

I don't see what's so fantastic/useful about 300 rpm with no resistance, it's equivalent to 5 stride per second turnover rate in a 60-100 meter dash (running) *except* that there is a high load and ROM in sprinting. I can hit 275 rpm with no load on a bicycle ergo, the gym guys asked me not to use the equipment anymore because they said I'd break it! My best 100 m is about 11.4 sec, but I can't approach 5 strides/sec (more like very low 4's) because my muscles power is poor in that range of motion. If you can reach 5 strides/sec with a reasonable stride length in a 100m dash, you'll win every race. I don't see the high rpm no load ergometer rpm relevance to cycle track sprinting as max rpm is 160-170, nowhere near 250+ rpm and the loads are quite high (if you can do 70+ km/h).

VeloFlash

Overspeed work is carried out for athletics track training. When I was sprint training we used a pulley tow device to ensure we went 10% over our max speed. The same device was used in reverse to limit our max speed at max effort to 90% for underspeed.

The Soviet Bloc during the Cold War had learned through their extensive sports research programs using human guinea pigs that overspeed and underspeed training at the same maximum effort allowed sprinters to break through a physiological speed barrier.

If you could achieve 11.4 secs for 100m and you did not carry out these methods (would be only through lack of equipment or you are showing your age ) then your coach would have you under instructions not to train at 100% speed but a maximum of 95-98%. Training at 100% re-inforced this barrier limit.

The same principle applies to overspeed work on a bicycle ergo or low gear downhill on the road.

A rider who can achieve these 200+ rpm's on either zero or low resistance on an ergo improves the firing signals to his/her sprinting muscles so improved cadence, better control and forces can be applied in the competitive sprint range of 140-170 rpms.

Overspeed work on a bicycle ergo was also recommended for track sprinters in some publications I read at the time. However, I consider the principles of specificity would be breached.

It is not recommended to overspeed regularly, as you can fatigue your central nervous system (CNS). That fatigue cannot be detected and can only be presumed on the days when for some unfathomable reason you lack the zip.

One report I heard (heresay) was that the Australian Institute of Sport (AIS) recommended at least 10 days to fully recover from CNS overspeed work.

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VeloFlash

Bikeguy, here is part of a coaching article I located related to athletic overspeed training -

"At Lisle we have done quite a bit of research on the effects of overspeed training, and are convinced that two things occur when athletes are sprint assisted: first, the towing procedure "lights up" the central nervous system, bringing into play great numbers of neurons; second, it makes the legs more responsive to ground reaction. By lighting up the central nervous system, I mean that towing alters the timing of the nervous impulse to the effect on muscles. In other words, towing creates some anticipatory firing, and this kind of firing enhances intramuscular coordination. In terms of ground reaction response, we theorize that the increase in horizontal momentum resulting from towing alters the capacity for joint stabilization at the ankle and knee, thereby allowing for a greater transmission of force."

Overspeed training for cycle track sprinting is on the same parallel minus the ground reaction.

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