Magnetic Trainers



Yippie Kye Ay

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I heard that if you have a magnetic trainer that locks your frame in front and back it can torque your frame is this true?
 
??..I don't think you meant to use the word torque.
At any rate tho most magnetic turbos are attached from the back of your ride not both which makes little sense.
 
spinerguy said:
??..I don't think you meant to use the word torque.
At any rate tho most magnetic turbos are attached from the back of your ride not both which makes little sense.

My Minoura magturbo attaches front and back. It does twist the frame. Torque is the correct term, it means turning power.
 
jon_stewart said:
I use a tacx I-Magic magnetic pain device.

Jon my name is Theresa and I am from South Africa can you please give me advice I also have a tacx inhouse trainer. Is it okay to train with it instead of riding outside.
 
theresa123 said:
Jon my name is Theresa and I am from South Africa can you please give me advice I also have a tacx inhouse trainer. Is it okay to train with it instead of riding outside.

Hi Theresa,
I use a Tacx Cycleforce Swing indoors almost every night in winter, since it is not light early enough to get on the road in the morning (still dark at 6:30 here in Cape Town, like to hit the road at 5:30 for a quick 40K's before breakfast and getting the kids off to school).

I ride for about an hour to an hour and a half each time. Without the indoor trainer in winter, all of my outdoor efforts during the previous summer would be worthless - there is nothing worse than starting each season at the same level you started the previous season, the indoor training ensures that I start each season in better condition than I started the previous one.

I manage to cover about 4000 km on the indoor trainer in winter - 4000 km that I would not otherwise be able to do.
 
Julian Radowsky said:
Hi Theresa,
I use a Tacx Cycleforce Swing indoors almost every night in winter, since it is not light early enough to get on the road in the morning (still dark at 6:30 here in Cape Town, like to hit the road at 5:30 for a quick 40K's before breakfast and getting the kids off to school).

I ride for about an hour to an hour and a half each time. Without the indoor trainer in winter, all of my outdoor efforts during the previous summer would be worthless - there is nothing worse than starting each season at the same level you started the previous season, the indoor training ensures that I start each season in better condition than I started the previous one.

I manage to cover about 4000 km on the indoor trainer in winter - 4000 km that I would not otherwise be able to do.
Thank you, like I said I stay in Gauteng and the traffic is hetic. So I ride one day indoor for about 1 hour and the next day outdoor. Will this be okay see I am still very new in cycling and I really want to get fit for the 94.7km in november
 
theresa123 said:
Thank you, like I said I stay in Gauteng and the traffic is hetic. So I ride one day indoor for about 1 hour and the next day outdoor. Will this be okay see I am still very new in cycling and I really want to get fit for the 94.7km in november
Theresa,
I have issues with traffic and light also... and I've got two small kids to look after, most of the time I'm not working and could go out and train. I agree with all that was said above.

I don't think there is a significant difference between training indoors and outdoors from a fitness point of view, but I think that your training plan for indoors should be as well thought out as the one for your outdoor riding.

I'm new to cycling as well, and I'm doing 3 long runs a week (currently 55K-1 hour 40 mins approx, but increasing to 80K within 3 weeks) at 65% HRR (Karvonnen), with shorter runs (22K) at slighly harder intensity. I had no aerobic base worth talking about 1 month ago, but I'm noticing some changes recently!

All of this is done on the trainer.

Hope you find this useful. Feel free to contact me... Us newbies should stick together :D !
 
It's amazing how realistic indoor training can be Michael Rogers in training for the Athens time trial trained indoors with a projection of the route and changing resistance for hills, it was also set up that there was accurate humidity and heat to simulate Athens Greece.
 
Theresa (and others using an indoor trainer)
If you can, get a second rear wheel (cheapest 32 spoke wheel you can find) with the same ratio cassette as your main riding wheel, put a really cheap tire on the second wheel and use ONLY that wheel on your indoor trainer.

Indoor trainers EAT tires (1200 km per tire for me, if I'm lucky), and you don't want those expensive road tires being eaten at that rate.

It may seem expensive at first :eek: , but it does pay for itself in the first three months of indoor training . :)
 
Yippie Kye Ay said:
It's amazing how realistic indoor training can be Michael Rogers in training for the Athens time trial trained indoors with a projection of the route and changing resistance for hills, it was also set up that there was accurate humidity and heat to simulate Athens Greece.
You can't simulate temp or humidity, but you can get interractive video of a number of famous classic tour stages for the I-Magic VR trainer... does the changing resistance etc.
 
jon_stewart said:
Theresa,
I have issues with traffic and light also... and I've got two small kids to look after, most of the time I'm not working and could go out and train. I agree with all that was said above.

I don't think there is a significant difference between training indoors and outdoors from a fitness point of view, but I think that your training plan for indoors should be as well thought out as the one for your outdoor riding.

I'm new to cycling as well, and I'm doing 3 long runs a week (currently 55K-1 hour 40 mins approx, but increasing to 80K within 3 weeks) at 65% HRR (Karvonnen), with shorter runs (22K) at slighly harder intensity. I had no aerobic base worth talking about 1 month ago, but I'm noticing some changes recently!

All of this is done on the trainer.

Hope you find this useful. Feel free to contact me... Us newbies should stick together :D !
Thank you very much. I was just a little bit unsure. About the indoor trainers. I want to start riding outside this week even if it means I need to ride alone.
 
jon_stewart said:
You can't simulate temp or humidity, but you can get interractive video of a number of famous classic tour stages for the I-Magic VR trainer... does the changing resistance etc.
Do someone please have a training program for indoor training?
 
Julian Radowsky said:
Theresa (and others using an indoor trainer)
If you can, get a second rear wheel (cheapest 32 spoke wheel you can find) with the same ratio cassette as your main riding wheel, put a really cheap tire on the second wheel and use ONLY that wheel on your indoor trainer.

Indoor trainers EAT tires (1200 km per tire for me, if I'm lucky), and you don't want those expensive road tires being eaten at that rate.

It may seem expensive at first :eek: , but it does pay for itself in the first three months of indoor training . :)
Are you on a specific diet while you train :confused:
 
jon_stewart said:
You can't simulate temp or humidity, but you can get interractive video of a number of famous classic tour stages for the I-Magic VR trainer... does the changing resistance etc.
oh yea set your thermastat on 90° to 95° and put a couple of pans on the stove to boil water :)
 
TechJD said:
oh yea set your thermastat on 90° to 95° and put a couple of pans on the stove to boil water :)
Much amused... only used a fan to simulate wind so far!

Wonder could I install the trainer and computer in the sauna...and how long would it work!
 
Yippie Kye Ay said:
I heard that if you have a magnetic trainer that locks your frame in front and back it can torque your frame is this true?

Any indoor trainer that locks your bike into a static positition is going to put stress on your frame. No matter what type of resistance method is used, indoor trainers feel unnatural because of this. However, Elite have just released a unit that allows some lateral movement. Anybody used one of these?
 
theresa123 said:
Do someone please have a training program for indoor training?

Theresa, I have just started cycling and have also got myself an indoor magnetic trainer.Sitting on a trainer for an hour and riding on the road for an hour are two different issues.I use a heart rate monitor with my training and this definitely shows the difference between indoor and outdoor training.If my training dictates that I have to cycle 1.5hrs on Tuesday and the weather conditions arent suitable then I use my trainer but I dont cycle for 1.5hrs on the trainer.My max on a trainer is 1hr. So it varies for different people.

As a beginner, I ride on a Tuesday,Thursday,Saturday and Sunday. Short rides in the week (started with 0.5hrs) and long rides weekend (started with 1-1.5hrs) and then increased time from week to week.Remember, its not about how fast and how far, its about TIME in the saddle and just enjoying yourself!!! :p

My 5c.... ;)
 
Hi !

I bought a Axiom 3 trainer from Performance, and have 300 miles on it so far. It is connected to an old used computer that uses Windows 95. It's best feature is the pre-programed resistance rides, and, the excellent data base that automaticly records HR, watts, weight/power ratio, and everything else in between. You can make up your own courses, and even several other rider profiles, for friends, or your own riding circumstances, like one for AM training, and another for maybe a longer effort that targets distance goals. It has helped to build my riding in specific areas. Now I know some say the wattage is not accurate, and there are other technical short commings, but, it is better than nothing. And not a bad price either ! With some music, or a DVD of recorded races, it saves loosing your fitness in the off season. WE NEED a up to date training DVD though, with HR, and Watt information included, what is out there is WAY behind. Training books too !
 

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