What is happening to UK Walking?

Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the
wonderful person John Spencer-Mallory <[email protected]>
said
>I am confused.
>That in itself is not difficult to achieve but I don't like being
>confused without knowing why.
>
>I have read uk.rec.walking and have also been advised (by Google) to
>try uk.rec.walking (beta). All ok so far. HOWEVER, when I look at UW
>I can read various messages with various titles (this would seem to be
>normal). When I read UW(beta) I can read messages with various
>titles.....So what is the problem...well some messages on one do not
>appear on t'other - not just because of delays in updating, unless
>updating takes many days - but because they, the messages, just do not
>appear. So which do we use?
>I'm curious to see whether this message posts to both groups too.
>Maybe those using a news reader do not have this problem, who knows.
>
>Can anyone please satisfy my curiosity and relieve my confusion?

UK.Walking is fine, however the beta version of Google groups still has
some problems - that's why it's a beta, not production.

Personally I'd go mad trying to work Usenet via Google - it's great for
looking up an answer from a 10 year old posting, but for reading a group
in semi-real time, it sucks .. why not get yourself a decent newsreader
(free agent, or even (spit) Outlook Express) and access the group via
one of the free NNTP (news) servers which are out there? I know walkers
are masochists, but you have to set limits somewhere. 8>.

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On 14 Jul 2004 05:25:07 -0700, [email protected] (John
Spencer-Mallory) wrote:

| I am confused.
| That in itself is not difficult to achieve but I don't like being
| confused without knowing why.
|
| I have read uk.rec.walking and have also been advised (by Google) to
| try uk.rec.walking (beta). All ok so far. HOWEVER, when I look at UW
| I can read various messages with various titles (this would seem to be
| normal). When I read UW(beta) I can read messages with various
| titles.....So what is the problem...well some messages on one do not
| appear on t'other - not just because of delays in updating, unless
| updating takes many days - but because they, the messages, just do not
| appear. So which do we use?
| I'm curious to see whether this message posts to both groups too.
| Maybe those using a news reader do not have this problem, who knows.
|
| Can anyone please satisfy my curiosity and relieve my confusion?

Just checked Google Groups and Google groups advanced search, it has not
changed. No mention of urw(beta)

Google (along with all web based newsreader) is/are is IMO a cr*p method of
reading newsgroups.

Dave F

Following up to John Spencer-Mallory

>I have read uk.rec.walking and have also been advised (by Google) to
>try uk.rec.walking (beta).

I would use a newsreader rather than google.
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John Spencer-Mallory wrote:

> I am confused.
> That in itself is not difficult to achieve but I don't like being
> confused without knowing why.

> I have read uk.rec.walking and have also been advised (by Google) to
> try uk.rec.walking (beta). All ok so far. HOWEVER, when I look at UW
> I can read various messages with various titles (this would seem to be
> normal). When I read UW(beta) I can read messages with various
> titles.....So what is the problem...well some messages on one do not
> appear on t'other - not just because of delays in updating, unless
> updating takes many days - but because they, the messages, just do not
> appear. So which do we use?
> I'm curious to see whether this message posts to both groups too.
> Maybe those using a news reader do not have this problem, who knows.

> Can anyone please satisfy my curiosity and relieve my confusion?

> Cheers,
> John S-M (Gedney Marsh Rules OK)

I too am having same trouble but will start using a newsreader I think
REC.

In the new manuscript <[email protected]>,
John Spencer-Mallory penned the following script...


> Can anyone please satisfy my curiosity and relieve my confusion?
>
> Cheers,
> John S-M (Gedney Marsh Rules OK)
>


Google are updating their interfaces to compete with other web based
companies, Google Groups Beta is a trial to improve the 'experience'
allowing you to watch, update, tag your threads etc....

Personally I prefer using Knode or Gravity for newsgroups both are
offline viewers and I get to read the groups at my leisure and kill file
trolls/spam.
--
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www.CelticShadows.co.uk

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:26:46 +0100, Faolan <[email protected]>
wrote:


| Personally I prefer using Knode or Gravity for newsgroups both are
| offline viewers and I get to read the groups at my leisure and kill file
| trolls/spam.

I use Agent which has very good killfiles.

Ms Outlook and Outlook Express are IMO cr*p

Dave F

In the new manuscript <[email protected]>, Dave
Fawthrop penned the following script...


> Ms Outlook and Outlook Express are IMO cr*p
>
> Dave F
>
>
Almost any news reader is better than the M$ rubbish, mainly because
they encourage top posting and don't have conforming signatures.

I used to use Agent but it took offence to a fairly exotic system I
have. Also I don't use a lot of features it has. That said, it's a good
client.

"Dave Fawthrop" wrote after Faolan >
> wrote:
>
>
> | Personally I prefer using Knode or Gravity for newsgroups both are
> | offline viewers and I get to read the groups at my leisure and kill file
> | trolls/spam.
>
> I use Agent which has very good killfiles.
>
> Ms Outlook and Outlook Express are IMO cr*p
>

Well OE does OK for me.
I think the most important thing is the News Server you use, some are
hopeless others are good, one of the best is the free news server
news.individual.net. You go to their web site
http://www.news.individual.net/ and register then they send you the
passwords etc and then you configure your news reader. They have good
instructions on configuring most news readers.

--
Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK

[email protected] said...
> I think the most important thing is the News Server you use, some are
> hopeless others are good, one of the best is the free news server
> news.individual.net. You go to their web site
> http://www.news.individual.net/ and register then they send you the
> passwords etc and then you configure your news reader. They have good
> instructions on configuring most news readers.
>
I'd go along with this. Some of the ISP news servers are
complete penc. The only limitations on the German server are:
lack of binary groups; lack of any group whose name starts with
the word 'free'. This means that the freeserve.* heirarchy
aren't carried despite numerous requests, which is a pity because
only rarely are they Freeserve-specific and they're usually worth
looking at.
--
Fran
If you need my email address please ask.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:48:53 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
wrote in message <[email protected]>:

>one of the best is the free news server
>news.individual.net.

Thirded. Very reliable and fast server for text NGs.

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:48:53 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
> wrote in message <[email protected]>:
>
>
>>one of the best is the free news server
>>news.individual.net.
>
>
> Thirded. Very reliable and fast server for text NGs.

And again. I switched to it recently, & found it a million times better
than the blueyonder server.

Bernie

"Fran" wrote in reply to...
>me .
> > I think the most important thing is the News Server you use, some are
> > hopeless others are good, one of the best is the free news server
> > news.individual.net. You go to their web site
> > http://www.news.individual.net/ and register then they send you the
> > passwords etc and then you configure your news reader. They have good
> > instructions on configuring most news readers.
> >
> I'd go along with this. Some of the ISP news servers are
> complete penc. The only limitations on the German server are:
> lack of binary groups; lack of any group whose name starts with
> the word 'free'. This means that the freeserve.* heirarchy
> aren't carried despite numerous requests, which is a pity because
> only rarely are they Freeserve-specific and they're usually worth
> looking at.
>
That's why I still use my old ISP, BT, for those that the German server
doesn't carry, mind you BT and their lousy Ng coverage were the reason I
went with the German server in the first place.

--
Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK

"Bernie Hughes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:48:53 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
> > wrote in message <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> >>one of the best is the free news server
> >>news.individual.net.
> >
> >
> > Thirded. Very reliable and fast server for text NGs.
>
> And again. I switched to it recently, & found it a million times better
> than the blueyonder server.


LOL.

And I thought I was slow! It's been the best ng server for over 9 years;-)
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Chris
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"Queenie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 14 Jul 2004 05:25:07 -0700, I found this from
> [email protected] (John Spencer-Mallory) :
>
> >I have read uk.rec.walking and have also been advised (by Google) to
> >try uk.rec.walking (beta).
>
> This one uk.rec.walking has gone over to Argos sales department.

Many thanks to all for their advice, which I have now (partially) taken and
started using my ISP's USENET facilities via Outlook Express. I know it's
not necessarily the program of choice but will satisfy me for the moment.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:48:53 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>
>
>Well OE does OK for me.

That's interesting. Your headers confirm that you are indeed using
OE. But your sig isn't broken, ie the space after the '--' has not
been removed. Does this mean that M$ have mended their software?

Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the
wonderful person Simon Caldwell <[email protected]> said
>On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:48:53 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>>Well OE does OK for me.
>
>That's interesting. Your headers confirm that you are indeed using
>OE. But your sig isn't broken, ie the space after the '--' has not
>been removed. Does this mean that M$ have mended their software?

Quotefix fixes that, iirc, along with several other buglets.

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Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

Simon Caldwell wrote on Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:35:20 +0100....
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:48:53 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >Well OE does OK for me.
>
> That's interesting. Your headers confirm that you are indeed using
> OE. But your sig isn't broken, ie the space after the '--' has not
> been removed. Does this mean that M$ have mended their software?

In version 6 of OE, I think.

However, I've just checked one of Paul Saunders' posts, since I've
noticed before that he always has a broken sig. He is also using OE6,
so there must be more to it than just the fact that OE6 no longer
strips off the space. Maybe you also have to set the 'hyphen-hyphen-
space' up correctly in the sig file?

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