Re: OT: Liberation(?) of Iraq?
In article <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org says...
> Jeremy Henderson <email@example.com> wrote:
> >"Mark Hickey" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> >> The current action is (IMHO) the end of the fringe group mentality. Hopefully democracies in
> >> Afghanistan and Iraq will spawn critical thought from within the "Arab street" in which their
> >> problems aren't all laid on others. If the economy and well-being of the citizens of
> >> Afghanistan and Iraq stand out in sharp contrast to those still mired in monarchy or
> >> heavy-handed religious leadership (did I really say that?) the opinion of the "street" will
> >> turn.
> >Which democracies are they? Does the US have a record in intervening militarily and leaving a
> >democracy? More likely there will be civil war and the emergence of a new dictator who will be
> >accepted because people will prefer ANYONE to the continuing turmoil. No doubt the CIA will be
> >busy arming one or many factions. Sounds like ... Err ... Afghanistan.
> Or Iraq. At the time, it looked as if Saddam might bring reform to Iraq. And Osama looked like a
> better bet than Afghaistan becoming one of the "Russiastans".
> The stakes are different now, and Bush has served notice that "politics as usual" don't apply any
> more. I expect there will be a lot more transparancy - but feel free to rub my nose in it if it
> doesn't work out that way.
I would say that in and around Baghdad you will find a lot of people that think Saddam is great,
these people were enjoying the good life and only lost it when UN/Bush sanctions took effect. You'll
find people in the USA that hate bush as much as much as the poor people of Iraq do, we only hear
about them when they blow up a federal building or get their compound raided by the ATF and
fortunately they don't populate entire southern towns or mountainous regions.
> Think how cool it will be if Iraq's very capable population cranks up an economy that makes Israel
> look like an also-ran. That, IMHO will be the true measure of success.
Well I don't know if you read those articles someone posted here yesterday about the Euro vs. the US
dollar but the theory is if the sanctions were lifted and Iraqs economy cranked up while it was
still trading oil in euros then Iraq and Iran (if and when it changed to euros also) would have it
within their power to topple the USA without firing a shot. Now like all things to do with the
reasoning behind this war, it is just a theory, but it is a very credible one. Now I never hear word
one about this on CNN, programs like moneyline still call the Euro irrelevant even though it has
gone from $.88 US to $1.06 in 6 months. It is a recorded fact that Saddam managed to make himself a
few billion dollars through what amounts to global insider trading with money the UN had control of
by changing his 10 billion dollar reserve fund to euros and driving the value of a euro up with the
small amount of oil the US/UN is letting him sell. If you had bought $1000 in euros before Saddam
did that you would have an extra $200 in your pocket right now. I notice Tony Blair has sidelined
his effort to get Britain to join the EU in the last year now that he's in bed with GW. I find that
a little suspect. It would be very interesting if we could go back and play it all again to see if
Bush would have Blair's support if they had gone to the Euro a year ago. Theory or not, if Iraq was
the second largest exporter of oil again, and trading in euros, the rest of Opec would surly follow
and the US dollar would be on a toilet paper spindle next to the Canadian dollar in bathrooms
everywhere. So when Bush says "We will prevail", I really get the sense now that he's saying "We
will prevail, no matter what we can't afford to stop until we have control of that oil or at least
get it trading in US dollars again." Then again maybe I've giving him too much credit for knowing
what's going on in his own administration.
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia http://www.ramsays-online.com