32 spokes, cross 4

smokva · Mar 5, 2005

Hi!
I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
Rim: 599 ERD
Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
X4.
Any thoughts?

Ante Smokrovic
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ICQ: 5924617

Qui Si Parla Campagnolo · Mar 5, 2005

smokva wrote:
> Hi!
> I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
> for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
> I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
> that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
> hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
> the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
> Rim: 599 ERD
> Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
> Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
> Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
> X4.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Ante Smokrovic
> ========================
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> ICQ: 5924617
>

Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

smokva · Mar 5, 2005

Qui Si Parla Campagnolo <[email protected]> wrote:

>Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
>spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
>right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

I live in Croatia....don't bother with sending, shipping would probbably cost
more than spokes

)

Ante Smokrovic
========================
[email protected]
[email protected]
ICQ: 5924617

Werehatrack · Mar 5, 2005

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:08:01 -0700, Qui Si Parla Campagnolo
<[email protected]> may have said:

>smokva wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
>> for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
>> I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
>> that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
>> hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
>> the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
>> Rim: 599 ERD
>> Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
>> Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
>> Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
>> X4.
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>
>Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
>spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
>right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

He's either in Croatia or Herzegovina if I'm reading the headers
correctly.

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Zog The Undeniable · Mar 5, 2005

smokva wrote:

> Hi!
> I have an rim with 32 holes, and having problem to find spokes of right length
> for 3 crosses, but I could find right spokes for cross 4 build.
> I was wondering just how smart it is to build the wheel in X4 pattern. I know
> that using too many crosses can cause spoke head interference problems at the
> hub for very large or small hub flanges. It can also cause the spokes to enter
> the rim at too great angle for very small rims.
> Rim: 599 ERD
> Hub: Pitch circle diameter 45mm (both sides)
> Flange distance 32.6mm (L) & 16.9mm (R)
> Since this is an road rim with "large" ERD, I was thinking I could be OK with
> X4.
> Any thoughts?

I'd go x3. x4 is best for 40 spokes or more. As well as head
interference you can get acute spoke/rim angles.

A Muzi · Mar 5, 2005

> Qui Si Parla Campagnolo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Yes you can lace 4 cross but as you mentioned, you will have a lot of
>>spoke overlap on the hub flange. WEhere are you? I can get spokes the
>>right length for you, DT, and send them. No need to use the wrong length.

smokva wrote:
> I live in Croatia....don't bother with sending, shipping would probbably cost
> more than spokes

)

Au contraire.

I can get 2 wheels worth of spokes/nipples to you in under
a week for $10.

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