This thing must be really cheaply made

Ken wrote:
> I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
> anchor!
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1
> Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to
41
> pounds!
> And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
> This must be a right from China deal.
>
> Ken

What is truly amazing is that for a 41 lb bike, shipping is $39.00.
But if you look at the "ebay is my job" people, they charge upwards of
$70 to ship a FRAME.

That looks like something out of the mid-1970s. (shudder)

"Velo Psycho" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Ken wrote:
> > I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
> > anchor!
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1
> > Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to
> 41
> > pounds!
> > And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
> > This must be a right from China deal.
> >
> > Ken
>
> What is truly amazing is that for a 41 lb bike, shipping is $39.00.
> But if you look at the "ebay is my job" people, they charge upwards of
> $70 to ship a FRAME.
>
Yeah I noticed the fairly low shipping price too. But what caught my eye,
why I looked at this listing in the first place, was that it was listed as a
2005 model with a starting bid of $159 I am always looking for a deal. But
when I looked at the description and the photos and then saw the weight!!! I
don't care what the price is this thing is NO deal. I can find bikes of this
quality on the side of the road every garbage day!
Ken

"Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> That looks like something out of the mid-1970s. (shudder)
>
Heck my old WF is out of the mid 70's and it is better than this thing!
Ken

Olebiker wrote:
> That looks like something out of the mid-1970s. (shudder)


As long as you guys are looking on e-bay, I have a Gucci purse and a
Prada checkbook cover for sale. I KNOW you are interested. Every man
needs a Gucci handbag.
Maggie.

"Maggie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Olebiker wrote:
> > That looks like something out of the mid-1970s. (shudder)
>
>
> As long as you guys are looking on e-bay, I have a Gucci purse and a
> Prada checkbook cover for sale. I KNOW you are interested. Every man
> needs a Gucci handbag.
> Maggie.
>
LoL does your Gucci handbag match my evening dress?
Ken

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, "Ken"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
>anchor!
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1
>Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
>pounds!
>And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
>This must be a right from China deal.

Looks like a knock-off of a late-70s Columbia/Huffy, except without
the same attention to detail. At ten percent of the asking price, the
shipping would still make it unattractive.
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On 12 Apr 2005 12:32:01 -0700, "Maggie" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>Olebiker wrote:
>> That looks like something out of the mid-1970s. (shudder)
>
>
>As long as you guys are looking on e-bay, I have a Gucci purse and a
>Prada checkbook cover for sale. I KNOW you are interested. Every man
>needs a Gucci handbag.

But it's so hard to find one that doesn't clash with my socks!

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"Werehatrack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, "Ken"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
> >anchor!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=714785172
8&rd=1
> >Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
> >pounds!
> >And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
> >This must be a right from China deal.
>
> Looks like a knock-off of a late-70s Columbia/Huffy, except without
> the same attention to detail. At ten percent of the asking price, the
> shipping would still make it unattractive.

Heck at that weight it isn't just unattractive it's darn ugly!

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Ken wrote:
> "Olebiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > That looks like something out of the mid-1970s. (shudder)
> >
> Heck my old WF is out of the mid 70's and it is better than this
thing!
> Ken

It will match any dress you want to wear Ken. It's Gucci for goodness
sake. ;-)
Maggie

Werehatrack wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2005 12:32:01 -0700, "Maggie" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Olebiker wrote:
> >> That looks like something out of the mid-1970s. (shudder)
> >
> >
> >As long as you guys are looking on e-bay, I have a Gucci purse and a
> >Prada checkbook cover for sale. I KNOW you are interested. Every
man
> >needs a Gucci handbag.
>
> But it's so hard to find one that doesn't clash with my socks!
>
It's Black with the Gucci signature red and green stripe. It will match
your socks....I guarantee it. And you will be the envy of all your
buddies. ;-)
Just think of how stylish you will look carrying that purse.
And you could put the checkbook cover in your purse and not only have
GUCCI...but PRADA as well. Now that is class.
Maggie

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, "Ken"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
>anchor!
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1
>Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
>pounds!
>And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
>This must be a right from China deal.
>
>Ken

Dear Ken,

The 41 pounds is probably for the entire bike, plus heavy
shipping carton.

Carl Fogel

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, "Ken"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
> >anchor!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=714785172
8&rd=1
> >Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
> >pounds!
> >And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
> >This must be a right from China deal.
> >
> >Ken
>
> Dear Ken,
>
> The 41 pounds is probably for the entire bike, plus heavy
> shipping carton.
>
> Carl Fogel
Yeah I though that may be the case, but 41 is listed in the *specs* of the
listing. Which to me sounds like it is the weight of the bike itself. And if
that is the shipping weight I am curious as to the weight of the bike
itself.
Ken

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:10:47 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>The 41 pounds is probably for the entire bike, plus heavy
>shipping carton.

Even if the box accounts for 8 pounds, it's still too darn heavy.

Looking at the kit on it, I see old-style brake levers with center
pulls, a no-name rear der whose layout looks distressingly familiar
(and not at all inviting), side-pull calipers that would be right at
home on a Roadmaster, 32/630 (alias 27 x 1 1/4) tires, no QR front or
rear, a saddle clamp that's likely to have insta-tilt issues on the
first bump, and I'm pretty sure those are cottered cranks; the
description says the cranks are "steel".

I revise my estimate. It's a copy of a late *60s* mass-market tourer.


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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:53:15 -0400, "Ken"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, "Ken"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
>> >anchor!
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=714785172
>8&rd=1
>> >Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
>> >pounds!
>> >And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
>> >This must be a right from China deal.
>> >
>> >Ken
>>
>> Dear Ken,
>>
>> The 41 pounds is probably for the entire bike, plus heavy
>> shipping carton.
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>Yeah I though that may be the case, but 41 is listed in the *specs* of the
>listing. Which to me sounds like it is the weight of the bike itself. And if
>that is the shipping weight I am curious as to the weight of the bike
>itself.
>Ken

Dear Ken,

Yes, the description is badly worded and does leave the
impression that the bike is 41 pounds, but notice that the
rest of it mentions not only the box but also a crate.

I expect that there's a hefty wooden frame around a
cardboard box.

A steel-frame touring bike won't be down around 17 pounds,
but it's just as unlikely to be over 30 pounds. The tubes
don't look wildly oversize, and nothing else looks
exceptional.

A Fury Roadmaster from Walmart with a triple and 5 rear
gears, 2-inch wide monster-knobby tires, and a far heftier
steel frame comes in just a cardboard box (no crate) with an
advertised shipping weight of 40.0 pounds:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...=0:4171:61903:61904:4180:4183:5304#long_descr

But stripped of sidestand and reflectors, it weighed about
34.2 pounds on a veterinarian's electronic scale:

http://groups.google.co.uk/[email protected]&rnum=1

I could be wrong, but with much lighter tires and puny
tubes, that touring bike in the eBay auction is probably
under 30 pounds:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1

It's only a 54cm frame, so unless the tube walls are
amazingly thick, it just isn't likely to be as ponderous as
the description leads us to think. My 1998 Schwinn LeTour
steel-frame has a lighter crank, but also a seat bag and
tool bag with a spare tire, four spare tubes, some parts,
and some tools--and it weighs about 25 pounds.

Carl Fogel

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, "Ken" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
>anchor!
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1
>Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
>pounds!
>And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
>This must be a right from China deal.

Here's a boat anchor for ya - 42 pound mountain bike made out of CARBON FIBER!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98083&item=7148094696

Ron

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, Ken wrote:

> I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
> anchor!
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1
> Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
> pounds!
> And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name. This must be
> a right from China deal.
>
> Ken

Dude, what are you going off about? It's a bloody Shuangfei!! Didn't you
want one growing up?

Wait...I mean Schwinn Varsity...

LOL, the thing is like a time capsule from the late seventies, I'd almost
get one for a giggle...10 gears!! 27" wheels!! Woooo!

Love the foamy grips too. Mmm, squishy.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:40:41 +0000, RonSonic wrote:

> Here's a boat anchor for ya - 42 pound mountain bike made out of CARBON
> FIBER!!!
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98083&item=7148094696
>
> Ron

I believe it's carbon and *glass* fiber. Bring the tweezers in case you
crash--you'll get splinters from that one.

On their company site you can get a $300 genuwine hi-ten steel tandem:

http://store.fuhuastore.com/18spdtabebi.html

I do love anybody that uses the "blink" tag in their html btw.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:40:41 GMT, RonSonic
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400, "Ken" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I was surfing ebay and found this thing?!? Weight 41 pounds?? What an
>>anchor!
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98084&item=7147851728&rd=1
>>Now I know that my *old* Western Flyer doesn't weigh in even close to 41
>>pounds!
>>And what about the derails, I don't even recognize the name.
>>This must be a right from China deal.
>
>Here's a boat anchor for ya - 42 pound mountain bike made out of CARBON FIBER!!!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98083&item=7148094696
>
>Ron

Dear Ron,

Same company as the other bike, same sort of odd woring.

I suspect "net weight" means bike plus box plus crating. A
similarly shaped steel Fury Roadmaster is only about 32
pounds.

Carl Fogel