Well, this question is a surprise to me as I have been waiting since last March for the highly tauted vapor-ware Fortius. I specifically asked if I got the available I-Magic system could I upgrade to Fortius and was told there was no upgrade path. I am still waiting for Fortius to become available anywhere in the U.S. If anyone knows when it will become available or where it is now available in the U.S. please let me know.Greg66 said:Does anyone have any up to date information on this, based on actual, real life usage? Does anyone have any experience of having upgraded an I-Magic to a Fortius? How much better (if at all) is the real Fortius than an upgraded I-Magic?
g00dd0ggy said:According to the Tax forum (http://www.tacx.nl/phpbb2/) it will be available in Mid-Nov to early December. There were some problems with it, which lead to deliveries being suspended. In Europe quite a few people seem to have had them. The problems have apparently been resolved. So far I have only heard good things, and the videos (samples available on the site) look great. It seems alot better than the RealAxiom.
I am seriously looking at getting one to alleviate the tedium of my trainer.
There is alot of difference between it and the i-Magic, as noted aboce the i MAgic only siumulates to a 5 degree gradient. The Fortius goes to 20. Given that some of the videos are big alpine climbs, the i-Magic will not do them justice.
Worth waiting for the teething troubles to abate I think.
mrowkoob said:And the teething troubles are there.
I have an I-magic, had a Fortius on order for more than 6 months before I got tired of waiting.
There are software problems which are continually being updated by tacx but still there are problems. That´s the software which you also can use on the "old" I-magic and that the closest you come to upgrading to Fortius, ie sotware upgrade only.
Hardware. The Fortius features a motorbrake. All the Fortius owners I´ve talked to has experineced breakdown of the motorbrake (although quickly replaced by tacx). The delay of over 1 year of the release date of Fortius is due primarily to this motorbrake which apparantly still fails.
When it works (I´ve tried one) It can simultate climbs up to 20% the old I-magic can simulate 5%). Training wize the I-magic is as good as the Fortius unless you love riding uphill. If I was getting a new trainer now I would buy the Fortius providing they work out all the bugs... maybe in 2 years time or so. Elite has made a similar product which I have not tried. Check it out.
Rudy said:mrowkoob, I though you have a Fortius? or is it an i-magic. can you give us some feedbacks on the ride quality of both?
Also, I thought the problems of the Fortius motorbrake have mostly been resolved. it's mostly software issues that some people have. Some, did not have any issues with the trainer at all.
Ive had a Fortius for a while now but my opinion is obviously very biased.Greg66 said:Does anyone have any up to date information on this, based on actual, real life usage? Does anyone have any experience of having upgraded an I-Magic to a Fortius? How much better (if at all) is the real Fortius than an upgraded I-Magic?
Billsrunning said:>>If your in the US I would seriously consider the i-magic for this winter if you do not have a Fortius on order.
I have been on a waiting list since last March or so. Are you pretty sure those of us who are waiting will still not have a Fortius for most if not all of the Winter? Do you know that for a fact? If so, maybe I should consider the i-magic. I just feel if I get the i-magic, the Fortius will then come out and I will feel like I should have waited.
Bill
I'm seriously thinking of getting a fortius myself, but I'm still very interested in hearing more you guys who've had a chance of riding one for a while.Phil Stone said:Ive had a Fortius for a while now but my opinion is obviously very biased... ...my 3hr plus distance rides in France,Italy or Majorca & my LT sessions are done on the Galibier,d'Huez or ventoux....& do all this in my garden shed!
g00dd0ggy said:According to the Tax forum (http://www.tacx.nl/phpbb2/) it will be available in Mid-Nov to early December. There were some problems with it, which lead to deliveries being suspended. In Europe quite a few people seem to have had them. The problems have apparently been resolved. So far I have only heard good things, and the videos (samples available on the site) look great. It seems alot better than the RealAxiom.
I am seriously looking at getting one to alleviate the tedium of my trainer.
There is alot of difference between it and the i-Magic, as noted aboce the i MAgic only siumulates to a 5 degree gradient. The Fortius goes to 20. Given that some of the videos are big alpine climbs, the i-Magic will not do them justice.
Worth waiting for the teething troubles to abate I think.
AGM|EX said:I have had my Fortius for about 1 week already and have had nothing but problems. It worked for about 2 days. I must say when it works it is great. Real Life Videos are very good, software is great and easy to use. My problems started with calibrating my tires. I had a carbon rim tubular and for some reason it would give me errors everytime I tried to calibrate. I switched to a clincher and for some reason it start working. I was getting some slipping on the climbs from the Real Live Videos and decided to switch to a Conti Trainer tire. I changed my tire on the clincher rim and the trainer has not worked since. To me it appears it is the power box that everything is connected to. With the box connected I cannot pedal without the brakes locking on me. The calibration menu is greyed out and I can't use Real Life Video's.
From what I'm finding Tacx support is very bad, probably the worst of any company I have seen. I found someone with the same problem as me and is waiting for seven weeks for replacement. For me this does not work. Winter training will be half over before I fix this. My next two days are dedicated to getting a replacment part fast from the US service center or some answers. If it takes too long for replacment I will have to return this trainer. I wish I can keep it but I need to "Train", not troubleshoot.
This is not good!!! I got my I-magic Fortius and the steering frame the other day (after a 1 year back order) and I got the hardware set up, but now I am having a software issue. I've followed the directions to the letter and I've downloaded the software upgrade. Installed and uninstalled numerous times. However, every time I plug in the USB cable I get an error:AGM|EX said:I have had my Fortius for about 1 week already and have had nothing but problems. It worked for about 2 days. I must say when it works it is great. Real Life Videos are very good, software is great and easy to use. My problems started with calibrating my tires. I had a carbon rim tubular and for some reason it would give me errors everytime I tried to calibrate. I switched to a clincher and for some reason it start working. I was getting some slipping on the climbs from the Real Live Videos and decided to switch to a Conti Trainer tire. I changed my tire on the clincher rim and the trainer has not worked since. To me it appears it is the power box that everything is connected to. With the box connected I cannot pedal without the brakes locking on me. The calibration menu is greyed out and I can't use Real Life Video's.
From what I'm finding Tacx support is very bad, probably the worst of any company I have seen. I found someone with the same problem as me and is waiting for seven weeks for replacement. For me this does not work. Winter training will be half over before I fix this. My next two days are dedicated to getting a replacment part fast from the US service center or some answers. If it takes too long for replacment I will have to return this trainer. I wish I can keep it but I need to "Train", not troubleshoot.
AGM|EX said:I have had my Fortius for about 1 week already and have had nothing but problems. It worked for about 2 days. I must say when it works it is great. Real Life Videos are very good, software is great and easy to use. My problems started with calibrating my tires. I had a carbon rim tubular and for some reason it would give me errors everytime I tried to calibrate. I switched to a clincher and for some reason it start working. I was getting some slipping on the climbs from the Real Live Videos and decided to switch to a Conti Trainer tire. I changed my tire on the clincher rim and the trainer has not worked since. To me it appears it is the power box that everything is connected to. With the box connected I cannot pedal without the brakes locking on me. The calibration menu is greyed out and I can't use Real Life Video's.
From what I'm finding Tacx support is very bad, probably the worst of any company I have seen. I found someone with the same problem as me and is waiting for seven weeks for replacement. For me this does not work. Winter training will be half over before I fix this. My next two days are dedicated to getting a replacment part fast from the US service center or some answers. If it takes too long for replacment I will have to return this trainer. I wish I can keep it but I need to "Train", not troubleshoot.
Billsrunning said:Geesh,
You'd think they could get this right after all the delays in getting it out the door. Now after reading your tale of woes I'm glad I was not contacted to make my purchase. Thats terrible and really disappointing. I suppose maybe it would be best to wait a yr or so to let them get the bugs out.
Bill
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