Re: radio reception on bikeRoger Zoul wrote:
> gds <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> :> Roger Zoul wrote:
> :>> gds <email@example.com> wrote:
> :>> :> Roger Zoul wrote:
> :>> :>> And just how does one quantify decreased awareness? How much of
> :>> :>> that does it take to put one in danger of being in an accident
> :>> :>> due to an UNEXPECTED event? Tell, me, are any
> :>> :>> crashes/accidents due to expected events? Your arguments lack
> :>> :>> depth.
> :>> :>
> :>> :> Is this a serious question? I would posit that the majority of
> :>> :> accidents are the result of unexpected events. If you expected
> :>> :> the event to happen it is likely you could avoid it. So, in my
> :>> :> experience virtually every single crash I have witnessed was the
> :>> :> result of some unexpected event.
> :>> That is exactly my point. Now, quantify decreased awareness and
> :>> tell me exactly where it makes one less prepared for the unexpected?
> :> At any quantity of decreased awareness you are less prepared than at
> :> a higher state of awareness. Are you arguing otherwise?
> 1) I'm not convinced it decreases awareness.
> 2) if it does, I'm not convinced it's significant.
> So, yes.
> :> The current argument I thought was if music make enough of a
> :> difference in awareness. I never thought there would be an argument
> :> that awareness itself doesn't matter.
> Are you having a hard day? I asked you to quantify decreased awareness and
> tell me how much will make a meaningful difference to safety. All you could
> respond with was "any amount". Boy, that's useful, as well as meaningless.
> As you hopefully know, over the course of a several hour bike ride, any
> human being's awareness level will peak and dip in an unpredictable manner.
> You cannot convincingly argue that headphone use will always degrade
> awareness, it might increase it during times when a rider might otherwise
> become bored.
OK well we are clearly on such different wavelengths on this that it
seems that neither one of us can make the other understand what we are
saying. So, enjoy your music and have a nice weekend of riding.