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post #31 of 833
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Re: Where's Jan ?

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Originally Posted by limerickman
Would I be right in thinking that JU has raced and that perhaps you could have a little bit of an insight there, JH?????

Can you share it with us? Or are you requested to keep quiet??????
Intrigued.
Agreed. Has Jan rocked up to a local race in Tuscany riding in a different kit and wearing a Groucho Marx moustache and glasses so no one will recognise him ? Do tell all…
post #32 of 833

Re: Where's Jan ?

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
Agreed. Has Jan rocked up to a local race in Tuscany riding in a different kit and wearing a Groucho Marx moustache and glasses so no one will recognise him ? Do tell all…
Truthfully I haven't asked but I know he does some small early races. I will make an effort to find out and maybe get a schedules of proposed races.
post #33 of 833

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Originally Posted by jhuskey
Truthfully I haven't asked but I know he does some small early races. I will make an effort to find out and maybe get a schedules of proposed races.
www.wielernieuws.nl published a story today in which was written that Jan ullrich will race at the Settimana internazionale di Coppi e Bartali (March 21 / 25). He also will race at the Circuit de la Sarthe (April 4 -7). At Coppi e Bartali there will be a TTT (stage 1b) and Cunego and Simoni will start there as well.
post #34 of 833

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Originally Posted by cyclingheroes
www.wielernieuws.nl published a story today in which was written that Jan ullrich will race at the Settimana internazionale di Coppi e Bartali (March 21 / 25). He also will race at the Circuit de la Sarthe (April 4 -7). At Coppi e Bartali there will be a TTT (stage 1b) and Cunego and Simoni will start there as well.
Jan is getting fat and not training enough.
There has been a deathly silence from JanWelt which can mean only one thing:
THE KAISER is up to his old tricks.
He will show up ay the piddling races without any early season tests of form or riding into form.
When will they learn?!?!?!/

from his website and a hilarious translation about him shoveling snow and having to begin his training later and hoping for better form and riding the rollers, geez:


Schneeschippen before the start
Friday, 10 March 2006

Hello fan,

I geschippt three hours snow, in order to free-get my entry and the entrance to the house. That was correct force training. Hopefully I do not get now again too many muscles, which I must up-drag the mountain. J

Fun aside. Because of the snow chaos in Switzerland I could somewhat later begin my training camp in the Toskana only. I missed however hardly something, because I drove each day on the role.

That is now fortunately past. Here, in the proximity of Lucca, spring began.

The conditions for a further form increase are ideal!

Of you
post #35 of 833

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Originally Posted by bobke
Schneeschippen before the start
Friday, 10 March 2006

Hello fan,

I geschippt three hours snow, in order to free-get my entry and the entrance to the house. That was correct force training. Hopefully I do not get now again too many muscles, which I must up-drag the mountain. J

Fun aside. Because of the snow chaos in Switzerland I could somewhat later begin my training camp in the Toskana only. I missed however hardly something, because I drove each day on the role.

That is now fortunately past. Here, in the proximity of Lucca, spring began.

The conditions for a further form increase are ideal!

Of you
Bobke, that is one of the funniest things I have ever read on the net. My entire family was staring at me laugh with tears in my eyes, questioning my sanity! Thanks!
post #36 of 833

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If he rides the Giro (which, of course, is uncertain), he will have to get into shape (unless he abandons). He will see how strong his competition is, and be shamed by his own results there.
post #37 of 833

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Originally Posted by musette
If he rides the Giro (which, of course, is uncertain), he will have to get into shape (unless he abandons). He will see how strong his competition is, and be shamed by his own results there.
And then go eat some more, amd do long monotonous hours solo.

DIdi anyone read Floyd's coach...yesterday said his main limiter was peak power at one and at 5 seconds last year...was only 1008 watts (which really is not so great).

His coach said Floyd worked a lot on that over the winter and now is 400-500 watts better, which for such a "diesel" type engine is reaaly impressive=accelerations and attacks on mountains and pushing up steep short inclines in ITT.

Wow!! Thats called working it.
Same thing Tyler did with Riis--work on high end stuff like moto-pacing to get out of diesel mode.

Does anyone talk to Jan about this stuff...since it is exactly where he is lacking?
post #38 of 833
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Re: Where's Jan ?

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Originally Posted by musette
If he rides the Giro (which, of course, is uncertain), he will have to get into shape (unless he abandons). He will see how strong his competition is, and be shamed by his own results there.
Judging by Hincapie's, Danilson and co's TT today Jan has nothing to worry about.... he will smoke the lot of them by 2-3 minutes in the first TT at the Tour....

As for Landis, he is good, very good, but has spent way to many biscuits to early in the season.....
post #39 of 833

Re: Where's Jan ?

The Giro is more than ITTs, as is evident. Also, Jan won't have ridden enough before the Giro, so he will have to use that race to try and improve his preparation for the Tour.
post #40 of 833

Re: Where's Jan ?

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Originally Posted by musette
The Giro is more than ITTs, as is evident. Also, Jan won't have ridden enough before the Giro, so he will have to use that race to try and improve his preparation for the Tour.
Ullrich, in riding the Giro, will have finally adopted his hero's strategy for his TDF prep.
Indurain always rode the Giro as prep for the TDF.
post #41 of 833

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Originally Posted by limerickman
Ullrich, in riding the Giro, will have finally adopted his hero's strategy for his TDF prep.
Indurain always rode the Giro as prep for the TDF.
Each individual must train to peak at the right time. Each one differs in their training schedule.
Jan will ride according to what is correct for him and unless someone on this forum is watching him on a daily basis all these postings are pure speculation.

Lim: Why do people hate athletes so much? I like Armstrong and Ullrich. I believe that some would rather see a particular rider lose that another win.
I don't understand!

BTW: Damn nice ride today 80 degrees F and perfect with just a slight headwind, but it won't last as the temperature will be falling a bit..but two great days in a row and I am not too disappointed in my performance.
For an old man ,that is.
post #42 of 833

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Originally Posted by jhuskey
Each individual must train to peak at the right time. Each one differs in their training schedule.
Jan will ride according to what is correct for him and unless someone on this forum is watching him on a daily basis all these postings are pure speculation.

Lim: Why do people hate athletes so much? I like Armstrong and Ullrich. I believe that some would rather see a particular rider lose that another win.
I don't understand!

BTW: Damn nice ride today 80 degrees F and perfect with just a slight headwind, but it won't last as the temperature will be falling a bit..but two great days in a row and I am not too disappointed in my performance.
For an old man ,that is.
In the particular case you're referring to - I don't know why that person hates Ullrich so much.
All I know is that she's been that way since 2003.

None of the guys that you see in a major tour are "losers".
In the immortal words of Stephen Roche on Eurosport "viewers, all of the riders in the TDF are the very best, of the best riders on the planet - members 1-9 on each team"

Enjoy those temps, JH.
I went out yesterday - cycled in the sleet for 3hrs.
Took me nearly an hour to defrost.

Today wasn;t too bad - milder but still not warm.
At least we don't have snow.
post #43 of 833

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Originally Posted by limerickman
None of the guys that you see in a major tour are "losers".
In the immortal words of Stephen Roche on Eurosport "viewers, all of the riders in the TDF are the very best, of the best riders on the planet - members 1-9 on each team"

Enjoy those temps, JH.
I went out yesterday - cycled in the sleet for 3hrs.
Took me nearly an hour to defrost.

Today wasn;t too bad - milder but still not warm.
At least we don't have snow.
I hadn't heard that quote from Roche, but I was thinking about the same thing when I was riding this morning. I'm in "winter shape" -- which basically means that for the last four months I've done nothing more than 30-45 minutes on the trainer 4-5 times a week. I'm in shape by normal people standards, but as I found out... Portland finally got a bit sunny mid morning so I went out and hit the hills. Ouch!

Spent most of the ride home wishing a one mile climb wouldn't totally knock me out and being amazed how strong the pros really must be!
post #44 of 833

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Originally Posted by tcklyde
I hadn't heard that quote from Roche, but I was thinking about the same thing when I was riding this morning. I'm in "winter shape" -- which basically means that for the last four months I've done nothing more than 30-45 minutes on the trainer 4-5 times a week. I'm in shape by normal people standards, but as I found out... Portland finally got a bit sunny mid morning so I went out and hit the hills. Ouch!

Spent most of the ride home wishing a one mile climb wouldn't totally knock me out and being amazed how strong the pros really must be!
Yeah, I was re-watching the 1998 TDF on tape and Roche in prely to a viewers question said that every single rider on each team - was the best of the best.
I thought that it was a very generous comment because the viewer in question was, in advertently, criticising someone who had dropped out of the race.

As regards feeling like a professional - I seldom feel that way!
I know my limitations (I hope) : I just marvel at their ability to suffer day in, day out.

Yep, the first few weeks back on the rode are tough Tcklyde - if it's any consolation we're all suffering!
post #45 of 833

Re: Where's Jan ?

In some ways, what will be interesting is whether the riders who are expected to accompany JU during the Tour will be with him during the Giro. To what extent does TM "rest" some of them?

For example, Guerini -- he doesn't need anybody to have ride the Giro to get him in shape; he has ridden in support of JU in the mountains in the TdF many times; he is not new to the team. Should he ride the Giro? Same for Kloden and, to some extent, Sevilla.

I can see how having Michael Rogers and Gonchar around for the Giro may be helpful. They are new to the team, and also they may be the GC contenders for TM whilst JU is getting himself in shape. That way, they practice with him more and perhaps a small amount of the pressure is removed from JU.

Other interesting questions -- Will TM succumb to public pressure like it did last year, and include a younger, less useful, rider on its Tour team, to assuage public perception (at least as of last year) that it was not training young guns enough?
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