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post #76 of 833
3/15/06 at 8:50pm

Re: Where's Jan ?

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Originally Posted by musette
Has anybody ever wondered whether his stomach bug could have been in part caused by over-exertion on Stage 11 or something within Basso's control-- hah, hah, won by Il Falco?!

Nobody is saying Basso can't do that without LA. Just that it was more effective working as two people, and LA was the second person willing to work generally equally with (or more than) Basso in many instances. For somebody else, even if they could accompany Basso, they may take the position that Basso needs to gain time on JU more than the other less favored cyclists accompanying Basso (e.g., a Savoldelli) and they may work less than LA, who was bidding for repeat TdF wins and needed to work at least as much as Basso.

Basso is gonna have his hands full in the Giro.
DiLuca is putting his whole season on it.
Oh yeah, and Cunego, right.
If you carry him to the line he will outsprint you.
Salvo will maybe podium.
It is a climber's race to win or lose.

Having said that, the TTT and ITT favors Basso relative to the non ITTers like Cunego etc.
Julich has already said he wants to wear pink then hand it over the Basso in the last high mountains.
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post #77 of 833
3/15/06 at 8:52pm

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Back to thread and how FAT JAN WILL BE AT CIRQUE DE LA SARTHE
whoops sorry for shouting.
Cant wait to see Big Jan, Der Kaiser, Mr Pork Pie.
Come to think of it a pork pie wouldnt taste so bad right now...felling a bit peckish myself.
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post #78 of 833
3/20/06 at 10:26am

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Lim: I know this is late information but better late than never. Steinhauser is very busy with his new business so there is quite a lag in reponse time.
I wonder which race comes after the Giro?????


"Hi Jerry",

"normaly Jan will start the season at the "Circuit Cycliste Sarthe - Pays de la Loire" in France (4.Apr. - 7.Apr.) and then maybe "Tour de Romandie" (25.Apr. - 30.Apr.) and the "Giro d' Italia" (6.May. - 28.May.)".

"Best regards",
"Tobias"
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post #79 of 833
3/21/06 at 10:12am

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Originally Posted by jhuskey
Lim: I know this is late information but better late than never. Steinhauser is very busy with his new business so there is quite a lag in reponse time.
I wonder which race comes after the Giro?????


"Hi Jerry",

"normaly Jan will start the season at the "Circuit Cycliste Sarthe - Pays de la Loire" in France (4.Apr. - 7.Apr.) and then maybe "Tour de Romandie" (25.Apr. - 30.Apr.) and the "Giro d' Italia" (6.May. - 28.May.)".

"Best regards",
"Tobias"
As I have said a number of times...when things are quiet in JanWorld, y'know there's trouble.
And the kinda trouble? The same stupid stuff Jan does every year, overfocus on strength training, and not enough on aerobic fitness and then he gets popped in the first races. Damn straight he's gonna skip the Spring Classics. He know riders are flying and he couldnt finish with the pack. What is it with this guy?

from cyclingnews.com:

Everything "according to plan", says Ullrich

Everything is going "according to plan," says T-Mobile's Jan Ullrich, noting that, "It's not so important when I start racing. I have to be ready for it. And now I am." I

Apparently not really everything is going as planned, though. "Every now and then, my knee twitched a little. I put some strength elements into my training, maybe a few too many. I took it easy for a couple of days. Now there is no more pain." Team spokesman Luuc Eisenga downplayed the knee problem, telling Cyclingnews, "It's very common for every athlete to be have some small pains sometimes; it's nothing to worry about."
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post #80 of 833
3/21/06 at 10:36am
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With this sort of analysis it’s no wonder that you are a sports science coach for a ProTour cycling team... keep up the good work..... because everyone should train like Lance's books tell you to train.... because everyone is the same....

Jan knows his body and is smart enough to pull back if something is not quite right....

Then again he could inject cortisone like other rider have in the past and just keep riding ?


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Originally Posted by hombredesubaru
As I have said a number of times...when things are quiet in JanWorld, y'know there's trouble.
And the kinda trouble? The same stupid stuff Jan does every year, overfocus on strength training, and not enough on aerobic fitness and then he gets popped in the first races. Damn straight he's gonna skip the Spring Classics. He know riders are flying and he couldnt finish with the pack. What is it with this guy?

from cyclingnews.com:

Everything "according to plan", says Ullrich

Everything is going "according to plan," says T-Mobile's Jan Ullrich, noting that, "It's not so important when I start racing. I have to be ready for it. And now I am." I

Apparently not really everything is going as planned, though. "Every now and then, my knee twitched a little. I put some strength elements into my training, maybe a few too many. I took it easy for a couple of days. Now there is no more pain." Team spokesman Luuc Eisenga downplayed the knee problem, telling Cyclingnews, "It's very common for every athlete to be have some small pains sometimes; it's nothing to worry about."
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post #81 of 833
3/21/06 at 11:29am

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
With this sort of analysis it’s no wonder that you are a sports science coach for a ProTour cycling team... keep up the good work..... because everyone should train like Lance's books tell you to train.... because everyone is the same....

Jan knows his body and is smart enough to pull back if something is not quite right....

Then again he could inject cortisone like other rider have in the past and just keep riding ?
No, the point is not that he should train like Lance.
The point is that he has made this same mistake over and over with his knee, putting too much force on it and then having to back off training. He overemphasizes the strength training every year and this has been well documented. He comes in to the Tour with more muscles that Arnold Schwarzenneger but does not have the race fitness because he gets going too late EVERY YEAR. ITS THE SAME STORY!!!
I am pissed because I have bet money on him to win and dont want to lose, even though Basso and Floyd are my sentimental favorites.
Lets face it, Jan is dum.
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post #82 of 833
3/21/06 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by hombredesubaru
Lets face it, Jan is dum.
think you meant dumb....

So if you hadn't known about his knee what would you think ? You wouldn't know and say that he is fat rather than full of muscles ! Make your mind up....

 Maybe Jan needs the strength for the TT's so when he wins them by 2+ minutes he can sit on the rest in the mountains....

 I’m confident that he knows what he is doing…. and I’m right 99% of the time.
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post #83 of 833
3/21/06 at 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
think you meant dumb....

So if you hadn't known about his knee what would you think ? You wouldn't know and say that he is fat rather than full of muscles ! Make your mind up....

 Maybe Jan needs the strength for the TT's so when he wins them by 2+ minutes he can sit on the rest in the mountains....

 I’m confident that he knows what he is doing…. and I’m right 99% of the time.

I can't say if he is capable of beating the field or not in any given race, only time will tell, but he is not fat this season
I agree he will try and peak at the proper time.
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post #84 of 833
3/21/06 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by jhuskey
I can't say if he is capable of beating the field or not in any given race, only time will tell, but he is not fat this season
I agree he will try and peak at the proper time.
Jan has got 10+ years experience in the Tour... more than Landis, Basso and Valverde combined.....he knows what he has to do to win... have faith in Jan.
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post #85 of 833
3/21/06 at 3:09pm

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I'm saying the obvious -- that LA was a lot more strategically astute in a race than JU, and that Bruyneel was a lot more strategically astute in a race than JU's DSs or Pavenage. And on top of that LA and Bruyneel were a lot in sync with each others' thoughts and strategies.
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post #86 of 833
3/21/06 at 3:18pm
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The key word here is: 'was' - But at least you have the memories.

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Originally Posted by musette
I'm saying the obvious -- that LA was a lot more strategically astute in a race than JU, and that Bruyneel was a lot more strategically astute in a race than JU's DSs or Pavenage. And on top of that LA and Bruyneel were a lot in sync with each others' thoughts and strategies.
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post #87 of 833
3/21/06 at 5:40pm

Re: Where's Jan ?

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Originally Posted by whiteboytrash
think you meant dumb....

So if you hadn't known about his knee what would you think ? You wouldn't know and say that he is fat rather than full of muscles ! Make your mind up....

 Maybe Jan needs the strength for the TT's so when he wins them by 2+ minutes he can sit on the rest in the mountains....

 I’m confident that he knows what he is doing…. and I’m right 99% of the time.
All I am saying is that he makes the same mistakes over and over.
Whether he is fat or not...we'll see.
But the training mistakes are clear.
He re-injures his knee over and over and does it the same way.
Hey guys?!?! Ever wonder if its because he over-emphasizes strength and pedals way too bug a gear. DUH!!!

He is intractable and at this point does not deserve to win the tour for being so lazy and stupid.
Go read about it guys, knees knees knees
Its what kept him out of the 99 Tour
and he keeps putting all this weird tape on it because of patella tracking issues, he needs to get a life and accept that having ridden 20 Tours de France maybe he should have won more that simply one.
"One is the loneliest number that you ever knew...."

Jan now: http://www.sportaci.cz/wp-content/up...tt-arms-57.jpg

see how much thinner he used to be and less muscle bound
Jan then and never again:http://www.siete.de/images/artikel/40712622d0029.jpg
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post #88 of 833
3/21/06 at 6:09pm

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This year, I believe will see JU under intense pressure to win the TDF.

The pressure is always on but given that Armstrong is now retired the expectation level will be proximate to 1998 and 2000.
Expectation levels will probably be even higher.

I still think that the odds favour an Ullrich win in the TDF in 2006.
He has won the TDF before - he needs to adopt what Indurain said about performing to win : quote Indurain "winning a GT like the TDF apart from the physical training, required me to repeat the same mental process - the first win is the hardest because there is always doubt. To win after that is easier because you're replying the dream".
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post #89 of 833
3/21/06 at 7:26pm

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Originally Posted by limerickman
This year, I believe will see JU under intense pressure to win the TDF.

The pressure is always on but given that Armstrong is now retired the expectation level will be proximate to 1998 and 2000.
Expectation levels will probably be even higher.

I still think that the odds favour an Ullrich win in the TDF in 2006.
He has won the TDF before - he needs to adopt what Indurain said about performing to win : quote Indurain "winning a GT like the TDF apart from the physical training, required me to repeat the same mental process - the first win is the hardest because there is always doubt. To win after that is easier because you're replying the dream".
Well said.
But of course Jan now has the doubt of losing the past years 98-2006. Wow thats a long time.
But not as long as the French Drought!!!!!!!
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post #90 of 833
3/22/06 at 2:33am

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Originally Posted by hombredesubaru
Well said.
But of course Jan now has the doubt of losing the past years 98-2006. Wow thats a long time.
But not as long as the French Drought!!!!!!!
who are the french?
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