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post #16 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:

> On 19 Jun 2006 11:54:25 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <dnvrfox@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Bikes ARE allowed on freeways in the west. They do require you to exit at every
> >car exit, cross at the top of the exit, and reenter.

>
> HUH??? Are you sure about that? Why would they have such a law?


If you stopped to think. Sorry, if you were *capable* of thinking, the reason would be
very obvious.

Graham
post #17 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

k_flynn@lycos.com wrote:
> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> > On 19 Jun 2006 11:54:25 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <dnvrfox@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Bikes ARE allowed on freeways in the west. They do require you to exit at every
> > >car exit, cross at the top of the exit, and reenter.
> > >

> >
> > HUH??? Are you sure about that? Why would they have such a law?

>
> Safety. THINK!


That's no answer. Explain the rule if you can or admit you're blowing
smoke.
post #18 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> k_flynn@lycos.com wrote:
>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
>> > On 19 Jun 2006 11:54:25 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <dnvrfox@aol.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >Bikes ARE allowed on freeways in the west. They do require you to
>> > >exit at every
>> > >car exit, cross at the top of the exit, and reenter.
>> > >
>> >
>> > HUH??? Are you sure about that? Why would they have such a law?

>>
>> Safety. THINK!

>
> That's no answer. Explain the rule if you can or admit you're blowing
> smoke.
>


Taking an exit ramp in your car, do you ever look for a bicycle crossing the
ramp as it goes straight? Now, think of it from the bicycles point of view,
the exiting car is behind you.
post #19 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

"morticide" <grvan@netzero.net> wrote in message
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>
> Raoul Duke wrote:
>> "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:g6ud92dtt0b4h473fbaamtg8pirvep8q7b@4ax.com...
>>
>> > Stay off the berm and leave it for the cyclists and don't drive 85
>> > mph. 85 is only for psychopaths.

>>
>> Obviously you've never driven across Texas. One HUNDRED eighty five
>> wouldn't be fast enough.

>
> Just send LBVH to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait to really see whether US
> drivers are really that insane.
>


Or Portugal.
post #20 of 87
Thread Starter 

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:45:48 -0700, "Raoul Duke" <P95_9mm@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:g6ud92dtt0b4h473fbaamtg8pirvep8q7b@4ax.com...
>
>> Stay off the berm and leave it for the cyclists and don't drive 85
>> mph. 85 is only for psychopaths.

>
>Obviously you've never driven across Texas. One HUNDRED eighty five
>wouldn't be fast enough.
>


Texans are ALL psychopaths. They let laura bush get away with
murdering her boyfriend with her car.
post #21 of 87
Thread Starter 

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:43:01 GMT, "R Brickston"
<rb20170remove@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1150745898.484991.7390@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> k_flynn@lycos.com wrote:
>>> laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
>>> > On 19 Jun 2006 11:54:25 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <dnvrfox@aol.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >Bikes ARE allowed on freeways in the west. They do require you to
>>> > >exit at every
>>> > >car exit, cross at the top of the exit, and reenter.
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > HUH??? Are you sure about that? Why would they have such a law?
>>>
>>> Safety. THINK!

>>
>> That's no answer. Explain the rule if you can or admit you're blowing
>> smoke.
>>

>
>Taking an exit ramp in your car, do you ever look for a bicycle crossing the
>ramp as it goes straight? Now, think of it from the bicycles point of view,
>the exiting car is behind you.
>


All right, i see what you mean now and perhaps the rule does make some
sense. Thank you for the clarification. tata
post #22 of 87
Thread Starter 

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:27:42 +0100, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
>
>> On 19 Jun 2006 11:54:25 -0700, "Colorado Bicycler" <dnvrfox@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Bikes ARE allowed on freeways in the west. They do require you to exit at every
>> >car exit, cross at the top of the exit, and reenter.

>>
>> HUH??? Are you sure about that? Why would they have such a law?

>
>If you stopped to think. Sorry, if you were *capable* of thinking, the reason would be
>very obvious.
>
>Graham
>


Someone else explained it to me honey, and i understand now. Sorry i
ruined your day. HAHA
post #23 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:45:48 -0700, "Raoul Duke" <P95_9mm@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:g6ud92dtt0b4h473fbaamtg8pirvep8q7b@4ax.com...
>>
>>> Stay off the berm and leave it for the cyclists and don't drive 85
>>> mph. 85 is only for psychopaths.

>>
>>Obviously you've never driven across Texas. One HUNDRED eighty five
>>wouldn't be fast enough.
>>

>
> Texans are ALL psychopaths. They let laura bush get away with
> murdering her boyfriend with her car.


And just how do you justify a charge of murder?
post #24 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

> Grendel said in rec.autos.driving:
> Again, I say you are incapable of thinking. I thought about it,
> considered the physics of it (man on 30lb bike going 15mph vs. 65,000lb
> Peterbilt going 80mph....again 'Vroom, woosh, *squish*') and agree with
> the experts that it is a pretty stupid idea.


The laws of Physics are about as far over Loco Laura's head as the
traffic laws are. IOW, we are talking Voyager I heights here...

> It does happen there. You've never heard of cyclists getting killed
> before? Or do you just wish to blame it on 'SUV driving Rightards!'?
> (are you saying that democrats ALL drive hybrids?) I've had it happen
> to me, got blown off the highway by a rig doing between 50-60, the ONLY
> time I rode a bike on the major highway. On an interstate the limit
> is, in my state, 75. That can do a lot of damage.


Ever watch "World's Wildest Police Videos," or similar shows that show
up on Spike or CourTV? Everynow and then they show what happens when
some inattentive driver clobbers a police car that has pulled someone
over to the emergency lane. Now, if drivers on the freeway have a hard
time seeing one of those rolling light shows on the emergency lane, care
to take odds on them seeing a bicycle there?

> Again, many people (engineers, safety specialist etc) ALL more
> intelligent than you have determined that it's a bad idea.


Since when does that stop Loco Laura from shooting off its big mouth?

> Live with the fact that you are an idiot.


I think that Loco Laura revels in its idiocy.

> Yol Bolsun,
> Grendel.
>
> "Never underestimate the stupidity of laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE."


--
Aunt Judy defends a known *drunk driver*:

"Almost all vehicle 'accidents' are due to driver
recklessness but the Chappaquidick incident is one
instance where it may really have been no ones
fault except the idiot who built the bridge."
--"Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend," 11/10/2005
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/9jtjt
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post #25 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

In article <1150742131.912103.222360@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, morticide wrote:

> Simple, really....most states have at least a 40 mph minimum legal
> speed on the freeways. The best bike operators can only go about 30.


I can go over 30 on a good day and I am certainly not 'best'
post #26 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

Mike T. wrote:

>>And the reason a bicyclist couldn't/shouldn't use the "Emergency Lane"
>>is.....?
>>
>>Wayne
>>

>
>
> The same reason so many people are killed every year in the emergency lane
> (sometimes while sitting in their car, even).


With vanishingly rare exception, those people were killed due to
motorists not paying attention and driving into the lane, not because
the motorist had to use the lane for an emergency.


There is a reason it is
> called the EMERGENCY lane. If you are in that lane, you have an emergency,
> or you are ABOUT TO have an emergency.
>
> I know the only time I had an unexpected flat tire, I drove about 30 feet
> off the road (a couple car-lengths into the grass) before I pulled out the
> jack. Nobody would have cared if I used the emergency lane to change the
> tire, but no way was I going to risk my life for a stupid flat. -Dave
>
>


So you agree that using the "Emergency Lane" would only constitute a
hazard to the bicyclist under the rare circumstance somebody entered it
illegally?

Wayne
post #27 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
>
> It's really the safest place for them since there is always a wide
> berm on a freeway and there is no chance of some parked car pulling
> into their path like happens all the time in cities.. We need to
> encourage bike use and i say BIKES EVERYWHERE.


Well, I wouldn't push for it in Massachusetts. When I lived there ('70s) not a
few MA cagers used the breakdown lane as their own personal freeway when the
other lanes got congested. I will never forget my disbelief the first time such
a turkey went flying past me on the right, in the breakdown lane.

--
Michael
post #28 of 87
Thread Starter 

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:54:38 GMT, "R Brickston"
<rb20170remove@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:5uvd929dcdric3q4c5314d3nauaji81bq4@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:45:48 -0700, "Raoul Duke" <P95_9mm@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:g6ud92dtt0b4h473fbaamtg8pirvep8q7b@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> Stay off the berm and leave it for the cyclists and don't drive 85
>>>> mph. 85 is only for psychopaths.
>>>
>>>Obviously you've never driven across Texas. One HUNDRED eighty five
>>>wouldn't be fast enough.
>>>

>>
>> Texans are ALL psychopaths. They let laura bush get away with
>> murdering her boyfriend with her car.

>
>And just how do you justify a charge of murder?
>


The guy she killed was a former boy friend!! An way if not murder, it
was certainly manslaughter. Stop being a coddler.
post #29 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

"Arif Khokar" <guyincognito@techemail.com> wrote:

>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
>> It's really the safest place for them since there is always a wide
>> berm on a freeway and there is no chance of some parked car pulling
>> into their path like happens all the time in cities.. We need to
>> encourage bike use and i say BIKES EVERYWHERE.

>
>The problem stems from tractor-trailers and the excessive air
>turbulence in their wake. Having one pass you at a 50 mph differential
>would likely cause one to fall.


Not only that, in many states it is legal to use the paved shoulder as
a lane during congested periods, and I've noticed this is done even
down here in NC where it most definitely is NOT legal. Plus, disabled
vehicles park in the paved shoulders, leaving nowhere for the cyclist
to travel except even closer to the 70mph+ traffic.

John Lansford, PE
--
John's Shop of Wood
http://wood.jlansford.net/
post #30 of 87

Re: Why aren't bikes allowed on freeways.???

Grendel wrote:


> Okay, so exactly HOW MANY needless deaths are you willing to accept for
> this convinience?
>
> Simply put, the Interstate is no place for a bicyclist. That's why the
> law is the way it is. Get over it.
>


Did you not read that bicyclists already are allowed on some
interstates? I suppose you are also ignorant enough to have not read a
report that examined this issue and found no safety problems. Get
knowledge.

Hey Grendel, if you are so worried about the "needless deaths" of
others, why don't you advocate for mandatory helmet use for car drivers?
That would prevent a lot of "needless deaths."

Wayne
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