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Stop SMIDSY's!

post #1 of 15
6/22/06 at 9:44am
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Well, in Queensland anyway. Has this been posted here yet?

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http://visibilityandsafety.carrsq.net.au/

Thank you for taking the time to visit our site. We are very interested in your opinions, experiences and perceptions of the visibility and safety of different road user groups. If you are interested in taking part in this research please select your road user type below to continue.

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post #2 of 15
6/22/06 at 8:29pm

Re: Stop SMIDSY's!

cfsmtb wrote:
> Well, in Queensland anyway. Has this been posted here yet?
>
> *************************
> Improving the Visibility and Safety of Pedestrians, Road workers, and
> Cyclists
> http://visibilityandsafety.carrsq.net.au/
>
> Thank you for taking the time to visit our site. We are very interested
> in your opinions, experiences and perceptions of the visibility and
> safety of different road user groups. If you are interested in taking
> part in this research please select your road user type below to
> continue.
>
> If you would like to enter a draw for the chance to win a cycle jersey
> (cyclists) or a double movie pass (drivers and pedestrians), please be
> sure to enter your contact details on the final page of the survey.
>
>
Thanks cfsmtb. Some of the questions were very interesting. I liked
how they wanted opinion on how safe it was for peds AND roadside workers
to be near roads. Awaiting my jersey!

--
Bean

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post #3 of 15
6/22/06 at 8:40pm

Re: Stop SMIDSY's!

cfsmtb wrote:
> Well, in Queensland anyway. Has this been posted here yet?
>
> *************************
> Improving the Visibility and Safety of Pedestrians, Road workers, and
> Cyclists
> http://visibilityandsafety.carrsq.net.au/

I thought, seeing as I drive as well, I'd have a look... and I decided
I'd bias the results. I'm too much of a cyclist!

Tam
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post #4 of 15
6/22/06 at 11:31pm

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about time a survey like this was done! i ride alot at night, and i think its important that they are thinking about this area.

as for how visible i think i am to motorists... they should have had 2 answers:

how visible do you think you are to motorists?
how visible do you think you are to motorists who are also cyclists?

i dont know about you, but i think cyclists that drive are always on the lookout and very courteous to cyclists. part and parcel of being a responsible road user i guess
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post #5 of 15
6/22/06 at 11:41pm

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asterope wrote:
> about time a survey like this was done! i ride alot at night, and i
> think its important that they are thinking about this area.
>
>
>
>
I was surprised at one of my own responses - yes, I do ride on the wrong
side of the road, daily - at one particular spot, for 100 metres near my
home - the alternative being a 4 km loop to do what is otherwise a 5 km
ride to my local shop. And there's a nice wide sealed edged to the road
there, where cars do not tend to veer.
Yes, I'm in the wrong.
Yes, I'll keep doing it while I consider it safe.
The loop would require me to cycle on a fast dual carriageway for
several kms where I feel I'm in much more danger.

Karen

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"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast
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post #6 of 15
6/22/06 at 11:58pm

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Originally Posted by asterope
about time a survey like this was done! i ride alot at night, and i think its important that they are thinking about this area.

as for how visible i think i am to motorists... they should have had 2 answers:

how visible do you think you are to motorists?
how visible do you think you are to motorists who are also cyclists?

i dont know about you, but i think cyclists that drive are always on the lookout and very courteous to cyclists. part and parcel of being a responsible road user i guess
That one sort of stalled me for a bit too. i'm quite visible, but I don't know how many motorists actually see me.
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post #7 of 15
6/23/06 at 12:04am

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Karen Gallagher wrote:

> I was surprised at one of my own responses - yes, I do ride on the
> wrong side of the road, daily - at one particular spot, for 100
> metres near my home - the alternative being a 4 km loop to do what is
> otherwise a 5 km ride to my local shop. And there's a nice wide
> sealed edged to the road there, where cars do not tend to veer.
> Yes, I'm in the wrong.
> Yes, I'll keep doing it while I consider it safe.
> The loop would require me to cycle on a fast dual carriageway for
> several kms where I feel I'm in much more danger.

Hmm, would you be happy for some-one else to do the same thing? On a
motorcycle? In a car?

Why do you think you shoudl be excempt from the road rules?

Theo
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post #8 of 15
6/23/06 at 12:19am

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In aus.bicycle on Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:44:23 +1000
cfsmtb <cfsmtb.29t0xn@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> Well, in Queensland anyway. Has this been posted here yet?
>
> *************************
> Improving the Visibility and Safety of Pedestrians, Road workers, and
> Cyclists
> http://visibilityandsafety.carrsq.net.au/
>
Heh. Guess which road user group is so hard to see even the survey
looks right past them?

Sigh.

I won't fill in the cycle one till they put a motorcycle one in as
well!

Zebee
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post #9 of 15
6/23/06 at 1:15am

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Theo Bekkers wrote:
> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>
>> I was surprised at one of my own responses - yes, I do ride on the
>> wrong side of the road, daily - at one particular spot, for 100
>> metres near my home - the alternative being a 4 km loop to do what is
>> otherwise a 5 km ride to my local shop. And there's a nice wide
>> sealed edged to the road there, where cars do not tend to veer.
>> Yes, I'm in the wrong.
>> Yes, I'll keep doing it while I consider it safe.
>> The loop would require me to cycle on a fast dual carriageway for
>> several kms where I feel I'm in much more danger.
>
> Hmm, would you be happy for some-one else to do the same thing? On a
> motorcycle? In a car?
>
> Why do you think you shoudl be excempt from the road rules?
>
> Theo
>
>
I think I've already answered those questions in my original post ...
pay attention please

Karen

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"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast
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post #10 of 15
6/23/06 at 4:57am

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Euan wrote:
> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>> asterope wrote:
>>> about time a survey like this was done! i ride alot at night, and i
>>> think its important that they are thinking about this area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I was surprised at one of my own responses - yes, I do ride on the
>> wrong side of the road, daily - at one particular spot, for 100 metres
>> near my home
>
> 100M? Why don't you just walk?

Because if I did I'd expose myself to danger for longer.
And I'd need to change to walking shoes

I have given the matter some thought before I started doing this and I'm
still convinced what I'm doing is the safest thing for me to do. Dual
carriageways like this one were not designed for either cyclists or
pedestrians and the sooner I'm off it, the better. And I live on one
side, my destination is on the other. I really don't feel I have any choice.

Karen

--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast
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post #11 of 15
6/23/06 at 5:35am

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Given such poor bicycle access for you, due no doubt to unthinking road
engineers, you might have a case for a bike lane or overpass etc to be
built. Are many houses cut off like you seem to be by the freeway? Ever
tried to lobby the local council/Qld Roads for something better?

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> Euan wrote:
>> Karen Gallagher wrote:
>>> asterope wrote:
>>>> about time a survey like this was done! i ride alot at night, and i
>>>> think its important that they are thinking about this area.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I was surprised at one of my own responses - yes, I do ride on the wrong
>>> side of the road, daily - at one particular spot, for 100 metres near my
>>> home
>>
>> 100M? Why don't you just walk?
>
> Because if I did I'd expose myself to danger for longer.
> And I'd need to change to walking shoes
>
> I have given the matter some thought before I started doing this and I'm
> still convinced what I'm doing is the safest thing for me to do. Dual
> carriageways like this one were not designed for either cyclists or
> pedestrians and the sooner I'm off it, the better. And I live on one side,
> my destination is on the other. I really don't feel I have any choice.
>
> Karen
>
> --
> "I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
> - Slartibartfast
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post #12 of 15
6/23/06 at 5:45am

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Fractal wrote:
> Given such poor bicycle access for you, due no doubt to unthinking road
> engineers, you might have a case for a bike lane or overpass etc to be
> built. Are many houses cut off like you seem to be by the freeway? Ever
> tried to lobby the local council/Qld Roads for something better?
>
> fb
>
Getting a bit OT now, but I've been trying for years to just get a road
sign on our service road - ambulance cannot easily find my house even.

And my local councillor has proved utterly powerless to do even this -
big dispute between Main Road & local council, result is no action.

Two years ago I had to call an ambulance four times in two months (I
won't go into that) - twice the crews were unable to find my home in
good time & I finished up driving the patient to hospital. Yes, it's a
life & death issue. No, we can't do anything about it.

Believe me, I've tried every trick I can think of to fix this.

Karen

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"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast
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post #13 of 15
6/24/06 at 12:57am

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Karen Gallagher <karen_oz@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:449baa36$0$6617$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

<Snip>

> Believe me, I've tried every trick I can think of to fix this.

Go to a local sign maker, get them to make one for you and stick it up
yourself.

--
Trevor S


"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
-Albert Einstein
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post #14 of 15
6/25/06 at 5:10pm

Re: Stop SMIDSY's!

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:44:14 +1000
Resound <sacredchao@everyzig.bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
>> If only I had more time, I'd join the Glen Waverley Hysterical
>> Society, and restore me some train. I didn't get to talk to one of
>> the persons on duty for long enough before he had to go off to do
>> person-on-duty kindof stuff.
>>
> Bicycles, steam trains and astronomy. There is going to come a time when you
> will be regarded as a thoroughly barmy old man. Please realise that I intend
> this as a high compliment. You may however want to start laying away a stock
> of chunkily knitted, bizarrely coloured vests.

And then he has to have a recumbent?

Zebee
- who suspects those are in the recumbent dress code somewhere.
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post #15 of 15
6/25/06 at 8:10pm

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In aus.bicycle on Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:40:06 +1000
dave <davidt@comcen.com.au> wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> In aus.bicycle on Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:44:14 +1000
>> Resound <sacredchao@everyzig.bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>this as a high compliment. You may however want to start laying away a stock
>>>of chunkily knitted, bizarrely coloured vests.
>>
>>
>> And then he has to have a recumbent?
>> Zebee
>> - who suspects those are in the recumbent dress code somewhere.
> Meanwhile continuing to have bizzare accidents and surviving not only
> unscathed (relatively) but better looking than before
>

Well, as better looking as you can be in a chunkily knitted, bizarrely
coloured vest.

Because surely you aren't implying it would be an improvement over the
current model?

Zebee
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