Re: "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make the provision for Bicycles on Trains Free and Compulsory by all train operators."
"Colin McKenzie" <email@example.com> wrote in message
> MIG wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 10:17 am, "Graham Harrison"
> > <edward.harris...@castle.btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>Seems to me the next step is to raise a petition to require the DOT to
> >>include a requirement in future farnchise bids for companies to provide
> >>transport for bikes.
> > I think the free carriage thing is a red herring. A reasonable fee
> > might be ... reasonable. There's a more general problem that trains
> > are being designed very inappropriately. Although not always.
> Well, we don't want to lose free carriage off-peak, but I agree in
> First we need all trains to be capable of carrying bikes. Then we need
> bikes to be allowed at ALL times. Companies will be allowed to charge
> a fee at peak times, up to the full adult single fare.
> It's easier to enforce a charge than a ban, and there are times when
> taking a bike at peak times is worth paying a high fare for.
> Colin McKenzie
> No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at
> the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as
> Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org.
I think I will admit to a bit of exaggeration to kick off debate in my
original post! I agree that train design is probably the biggest issue.
The question then becomes how to craft wording for a new petition that will
meet the various objections that have been expressed and achieve a
resolution. What it comes down to (in my view) is that a train plus a
bicycle can make a very effective and efficient method of transport which is
currently being strangled.
"ensure that future franchisees are required to provide trains that offer
the ability to carry all bicycles presented for travel without reservation
at all times of the day with off peak travel being free and peak travel
being charged at no more than half the fare paid by the rider of the
Definition of peak and off peak is probably quite simple in a commuting
environment but on rural and long distance/inter city needs some work.