KHS Taiwan

Sorry typo should be $600 US

>I am looking for this bike, carried in Taiwan.

Surely there are online taiwanese bike dealers who would ship
internationally? Do some more poking around.

rms

"rms" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| >I am looking for this bike, carried in Taiwan.
|
| Surely there are online taiwanese bike dealers who would ship
| internationally? Do some more poking around.
|
| rms

At present one-off shipping rates, it's not likely practical. You'll find
UPS, DHL and FedEx all running $400+ these days to ship a bike
internationally. Ouch!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

cmcanulty wrote:
> I am looking for this bike, carried in Taiwan. No response from
> faqctory. Does anyone know how I can get it and I woulod pay shipping
> to US? It works out to about 4600 US incl tax but plus shipping.
> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http://www.khsbicycles.com.tw/html/product/f20-w.htm

I'll be in Taiwan for the Taipei Int'l Cycle Show in two weeks. If KHS
(or whatever they call themselves in Taiwan) is there I'll ask them how
to obtain this bicycle in the U.S..

Note that _many_ folding bicycles violate patents held by Dahon and
cannot be exported into the U.S. without the manufacturer paying
licensing fees or having some sort of cross licensing agreement with Dahon.

The executives of Neobike, a Taiwanese folding bicycle manufacturer
ended up serving time in jail for patent issues related to Dahon and
Brompton (they were manufacturing, under license, Bromptons for sale in
Asia (I bought four of them on trips to Taiwan). See
"http://www.bikebiz.com/news/20822/Folding-bike-copyists-to-be-jailed-"

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> "rms" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> | >I am looking for this bike, carried in Taiwan.
> |
> | Surely there are online taiwanese bike dealers who would ship
> | internationally? Do some more poking around.
> |
> | rms
>
> At present one-off shipping rates, it's not likely practical. You'll find
> UPS, DHL and FedEx all running $400+ these days to ship a bike
> internationally. Ouch!
>
On the bright side, some of the higher shipping costs (correlated with
energy costs) might encourage more domestic manufacturing of bicycles.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

In article <[email protected]>,
Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> > "rms" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > | >I am looking for this bike, carried in Taiwan.
> > |
> > | Surely there are online taiwanese bike dealers who would ship
> > | internationally? Do some more poking around.
> > |
> > | rms
> >
> > At present one-off shipping rates, it's not likely practical. You'll find
> > UPS, DHL and FedEx all running $400+ these days to ship a bike
> > internationally. Ouch!
> >
> On the bright side, some of the higher shipping costs (correlated with
> energy costs) might encourage more domestic manufacturing of bicycles.

Unlikely. Shipping one bike via air is expensive. Shipping one container
full of bikes via sea is still cheap.

At a first-cut estimate, the shipping cost per frame of a well-packed
container-load of frames would cost around $1-10.

The key thing to realize is that means that shipping isn't an important
part of the final cost of a bicycle, except for the very cheapest bikes,
or a specific bike you have to have in a week. And very cheap bikes are
also the most sensitive to the total cost of manufacture, which means
that in general you accept the shipping and enjoy the far cheaper
manufacturing and assembly costs of building in China.

Even Taiwan is too expensive for really cheap bikes,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On Mar 2, 6:17 am, cmcanulty <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am looking for this bike, carried in Taiwan. No response from
> faqctory. Does anyone know how I can get it and I woulod pay shipping
> to US? It works out to about 4600 US incl tax but plus shipping.http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http://www.khsbic...

I did see the KHS F20-W at Taipei Cycle a few minutes ago. They do not
export this to the United States. It costs about US$600 in Taiwan
($NTD 20,000). It's quite a nice touring folder for the price, but
they told me that getting shops in the U.S. to carry folders is very
difficult. There are probably 200 different folding bicycles being
shown at the show, with some comparable to the Brompton, a lot of
higher end road folders, and a lot of lower end folders. Almost none
of them are exported to the U.S.. I took a picture of it, but I have
no way to post it right now.

So get on a plane to Korea or Taiwan if you want one.